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#405859 - 06/28/14 12:12 PM Re: How important are Sub's in HT [Re: exlabdriver]
oakvillematt Offline
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Loc: Oakville, Canada
Originally Posted By: exlabdriver
Matt.

It's certainly not your fault. While the net is wonderful tool, it is certainly not infallible.

Axiom's Customer Service has always been top notch in resolving these types of issues...

TAM


I have sent off an email to Brent to tell him to process your order for the ES800. I really don't need two of them.

Enjoy the unit.. it's a monster
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#405860 - 06/28/14 12:45 PM Re: How important are Sub's in HT [Re: oakvillematt]
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Matt:

Thank you kind sir. This is saving you a bunch & costing me a bunch, ha!!

Actually your room is 400 cu ft smaller than mine so I think that 2 of these beasts might be a bit of overkill - although bassheads wouldn't agree, ha! - especially with your LFRs in there as well.

Again, I'm going to use this as a <20 Hz unit just to see what the fuss is all about.

Have a great Canada Day long weekend & hope that the weather cooperates...

Thanks

TAM

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#405866 - 06/28/14 03:04 PM Re: How important are Sub's in HT [Re: oakvillematt]
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I'm in the planning stage on where to place this EP800 beast.

I would like to put it behind my listening position couch, but since I'm on a slab with laminate flooring, running a long connecting cable from my AVR under many feet of baseboards & a doorway would be a complete PITA.

Has anyone here used this wireless sub transmitter or a similar product?:

http://www.rocketfishproducts.com/products/home-theater/RF-WSW312.html

It reviews fairly well...

TAM

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#405868 - 06/28/14 04:27 PM Re: How important are Sub's in HT [Re: oakvillematt]
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This dream of having a good room to listen is sure costing me a bundle.

I just worked out the floor is setting me back a good $2500 when you factor in that there are some sewer rough-in parts sticking out that have to be capped and dropped back below the concrete floor. The floor needs to be leveled, and 300sq/feet of platon, 9 sheets of 17/32" OSB, 3mm cork underlay and floating cork flooring. Good thing I am handy and can do the work myself or that price would be easily triple that.

But what use is there getting good sounding equipment if your room is acoustically challenged and cant support the sound that your speakers produce.
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#405871 - 06/28/14 05:39 PM Re: How important are Sub's in HT [Re: oakvillematt]
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My placement problem is sure trivial when contrasted to your project.

Good luck with it all. It'll be worth it in the end unless you get another attack of upgradeitis, ha!

TAM

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#405872 - 06/28/14 06:38 PM Re: How important are Sub's in HT [Re: exlabdriver]
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Loc: Edmonton, Alberta
I'm using something similar to that from Soundcast, I think it's called "Subcast". Works great in my application as I had a doorway between my sub and receiver. I don't think I could tell the difference between wired and wireless.

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#405874 - 06/28/14 07:23 PM Re: How important are Sub's in HT [Re: oakvillematt]
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Thanks for the info.

Looks like a quality, premium unit with a price to match...

TAM

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#405878 - 06/30/14 10:43 AM Re: How important are Sub's in HT [Re: oakvillematt]
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Registered: 03/24/14
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You pulled the trigger on the 800 already so there isn't any real reason to comment, but I'll concur with the majority of the opinions here. IMO, decent subs aren't just a recommendation for a true home theater, they are a requirement. Towers that can play down to the 30's might be good enough for playing music without a sub, but will not do justice to explosions, rocket takeoffs, earthquakes, or any other movie scenes where frequencies around 10hz or sometimes even lower are produced.

First movie that comes to mind for showing the real advantage of a dedicated sub is Cloverfield. There are many scenes in that movies with single digit frequencies. Find me a tower speaker that can play those scenes as good as a 12" or 15" (or larger) sub and I'll eat crow.

Here are some graphs of several bass heavy moments from that movie:
http://www.hometheatershack.com/forums/databass-movies-deep-bass-dmdb/18500-cloverfield.html


Edited by stoudtlr (06/30/14 10:45 AM)
Edit Reason: forgot link
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#405886 - 06/30/14 03:43 PM Re: How important are Sub's in HT [Re: oakvillematt]
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Cloverfield. I went to Netflix to put that movie in my queue, and then noticed that sometime in the past, I had already watched it and rated it with only 1 star (meaning I hated it). I don't remember it, and probably didn't even have a sub when I watched it back then.

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