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#406227 - 07/17/14 02:07 PM Re: Dual/triple SUb Choice [Re: TroyD]
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I hear ya, but this is primarily a HT system & this is why I went with bigger subs to try to keep up with everyone else, ha!

I'll try the Carpenter SACD this afternoon. I have several other pipe organ CDs as well from TELARC that I will dust off...

TAM

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#406236 - 07/17/14 04:57 PM Re: Dual/triple SUb Choice [Re: TroyD]
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#406239 - 07/17/14 10:32 PM Re: Dual/triple SUb Choice [Re: TroyD]
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This PM, I listened to the surround mix 'Revolutionary' SACD. In my medium size room, I found that I could tolerate only a -10 Db level as any louder, it became brutal during intense passages. I both heard & felt the tremendous power of that impressive electronic organ.

I finally have a system that can do justice to these classical works. I now must try a CD featuring a pipe organ recital in a cathedral...

TAM

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#406240 - 07/18/14 03:02 AM Re: Dual/triple SUb Choice [Re: exlabdriver]
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Tom, you might try this one .
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#406251 - 07/19/14 11:59 AM Re: Dual/triple SUb Choice [Re: TroyD]
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Tom,

If your interested i have the below SACD that i'll send you. I can't listen to it.. With dual 600's it literally gives me a headache... Careful with the pipe organ stuff, you may be getting in over your head.. It sounds like a good idea, until you're picking the dishes up off of the floor.... smile

http://www.amazon.com/Revolutionary-Came...meron+carpenter

PM me your address if you want the above disk.

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#406252 - 07/19/14 01:03 PM Re: Dual/triple SUb Choice [Re: TroyD]
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John:

Thanks for the suggestion. I have some of TELARC's CDs of Micheal Murray from the past. So, much of the material on 'Organ Blaster' I already have.

dak:

Thanks for your kind offer. I already have the 'Revolutionary' SACD & even at -10 Db level, it does impress.

One thing about pipe organ music, cathedrals can handle the power much better than most homes, ha!

BTW, I suggest 'Tylenol #3s' for bass headaches, ha!

TAM

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#406255 - 07/19/14 04:21 PM Re: Dual/triple SUb Choice [Re: TroyD]
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I've been fussin with Audyssey for the last week trying to get it 'right'.

My main concern was level matching of the EP800s with each other. I don't have a SPL Meter & am reluctant to spend a bunch of bucks on one for what I would think would be minimal use.

Recently my phone company gave us a cheap, free Android smart phone (Huawei) so I decided to try to download a free SPL Meter App. It was a frustrating exercise, but I finally got it installed. I then roughly calibrated it using my Denon's Test Tones. For my usage, 'absolute' accuracy isn't as important as 'relative' accuracy.

My last Audyssey run gave a -11 Db SW setting so the Subs' Gains were too high. I ran the Denon's SW Test Tones & close-miced the output of each sub individually. Output averaged 85 Db each so I tweeked each Sub's Gain down to 80 Db (Gains now at about 10 o'clock).

I ran Audyssey again & it set the Sub Level at -8.5 Db & Distance of 24' (double the actual). I ran some dynamic music through it & it is now just fine.

Interestingly, I watched the SPL Meter during the pinging of the automatic calibration process. For normal speakers, the meter bounced around 75 Dbs & the SW around 65 Dbs (understandable given the little mic in the phone). So, for my purposed this little freeware app worked wonderfully & saved me some money so that I can Trade Up more speakers, ha!

TAM

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#406495 - 08/10/14 09:42 PM Re: Dual/triple SUb Choice [Re: TroyD]
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I managed to snag an ancient analogue RS SPL Meter (#33-2050) off of ebay for $6.50. Only problem was the shipping from the US (3 X the price of the item) that is now getting exorbitant. I got that model because from what I've read, it was generally the most accurate of the RS meter line.

I wanted to recheck the levels of my 800s with an actual meter instead of my previous phone app. I put it on a tripod with the front leg just touching the bottom of the cabinet (meter about 2' from the drivers) & ran the Denon AVR tones. My cheap phone app proved to be actually pretty good in that just the smallest adjustment was required to one of the sub's levels to match the other.

I moved the meter back to my MLP & played the tones through the other speakers & they all came in at around 73 Db with the subs being about 83/85 Db. So my Audyssey seems to be doing its job OK.

I played a Spyro Gyra SACD at my normal -15 Db level that gave me SPLs of 80 to 85 Db - fairly loud but comfortable...

TAM

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