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Bless me Father for I have sinned....
#408105 11/17/14 01:46 PM
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It's been a lifetime, as I've never been to confession before. What brings me in now? Murder someone? Inspirational new Pope? Use the Lords name in vain numerous, numerous times in creative combination with other four-letter words?

Yup. That one.

My original sin? I've not kept up with HT technology. I use my Axioms to watch TV 95% of the time, watch a B-D disc the other 5% and listen to music 0%. I used to love my HT and listening to music. Then life got in the way, and I fell behind on the technology that seemingly changed every four days. Oh, and there's the square room issue that has laughed and thrown up a middle finger at me, Exorcist-style, every time I've tried to tweak things. At some point, I gave up.

My receiver did a re-set during a power storm about six months ago, despite a couple of layers of AC protection. It took me two months to re-name the input labels and I still haven’t even “set it up” with the included Audyssey.

I bought a Harmony One remote about a year and a half ago. It’s still in its box.

I bought Wish You Were Here on multi-channel two years ago and now The Endless River on B-D Multi-Channel. I even have Moving Pictures on Multi-channel B-D disc. Never listened to any of them.

I have a couple of Pixar 3D discs that are kind of fun to pop in when my niece and nephew visit. I have to hook up the Pannie player directly to the TV on an occasion to watch them, and then I lose out on the quality of the soundtrack.

I’m not kidding; I really kind of gave up on the whole HT thing. No time. And the longer you put it off, the further behinder you get, you know?

All of you, disciples of great sound... I lay my burden at your feet and ask forgiveness. I come to you selfishly to avoid researching this crap myself.

I have a Denon 3808 receiver and a Pannie DMP-BD35 B-D player. According to the Pannie manual chart, it should play any aforementioned disc. But my receiver can’t decode the better soundtracks.

I also have a good number of SACD and DVD-A discs that I can currently play through an old Oppo player with multi-channel analog audio outs into the multi-channel audio inputs on the receiver.

I’ve read this from Alan (thanks Alan!) and I BELIEVE that if I get a new receiver, a simple HDMI connection between my B-D player and a new receiver will decode everything except the DVD-A and SACD discs, as the Pannie player won’t play them.

You’re figuring out where this is going, huh?

I noted that a receiver I had looked into getting 6 months ago has dropped to close of half of its original price: Denon AVR-X4000. A newer model has come out with Atmos (as long as I’m in this crappy square listening environment, 5.1 is fine by me and I’m not interested in Atmos). The receiver seems to be a great price and is very well reviewed. I’m tempted to jump.

I think the only feature that it doesn’t have that would be on my wishlist could be analog inputs to enable me to play those SACD and DVD-A discs out of my Oppo. This is because I BELIEVE that in the early stages of SACD/DVD-A discs, copy-protection didn’t allow the sound to be passed via HDMI, only analog (am I remembering that correctly?). Of course, I could also replace both of those players with a current Oppo that would allow all the higher level B-D soundtracks, DVD-A/SACD to pass through a simple HDMI connection to the new receiver for decoding.

Am I off track here?

A “current” receiver accepts Dolby TrueHD and DTS HD-Master and all the PCM flavors and every type of track from SACD/DVD-A via HDMI?

Honestly, I hate all this upgrading now. It’s not exciting for me anymore because I have other things that need my attention; it’s a pain in the ass. I want to throw money at the problem and be current. Maybe not the new Oppo just yet, but if a new receiver gets me everything except the DVD-A and SACD discs, it might be worth jumping.

That last statement should maybe be read like a question.


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Re: Bless me Father for I have sinned....
MarkSJohnson #408107 11/17/14 02:52 PM
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The lowered price of the receiver got me to thinking about upgrading, but I just found myself wondering:

If I ONLY bought the new Oppo wouldn't I achieve the same capabilities by using it's own decoding to output all the various soundtracks via it's analog outs (matching my current receiver's analog inputs). I could even bypass the receiver's lack of 3D capability by using the Oppo's 2nd HDMI output to go directly to my 3D-capable TV?


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Re: Bless me Father for I have sinned....
MarkSJohnson #408108 11/17/14 02:58 PM
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Please recite 20 "Hail Mary"s and 10 "Our Father Bob"s and make sure you listen to "Wish You Were Here" before your soul is damned forever.


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Re: Bless me Father for I have sinned....
Murph #408110 11/17/14 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted By: Murph
Please recite 20 "Hail Mary"s and 10 "Our Father Bob"s and make sure you listen to "Wish You Were Here" before your soul is damned forever.

Don't listen to him Mark. For penance you must go immediately to your workshop and build me a nice low profile equipment rack. Nothing fancy. Black walnut in a satin finish will do.

No, I don't want a shrubbery...


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Re: Bless me Father for I have sinned....
MarkSJohnson #408112 11/17/14 03:25 PM
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Ni!


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Re: Bless me Father for I have sinned....
MarkSJohnson #408113 11/17/14 04:16 PM
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These forums have been so quiet lately. I figured if my post involved religion, it would prompt more discussion (though likely a few people leaving the boards).

I'm working on another post where I can discuss 4K televisions by bringing Politics into things!


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Re: Bless me Father for I have sinned....
MarkSJohnson #408114 11/17/14 04:33 PM
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I'm so glad I don't feel the need to upgrade.

Re: Bless me Father for I have sinned....
MarkSJohnson #408116 11/17/14 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted By: MarkSJohnson
I'm working on another post where I can discuss 4K televisions by bringing Politics into things!

Not until after you finish my equipment rack do your penance!


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Re: Bless me Father for I have sinned....
MarkSJohnson #408117 11/17/14 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted By: MarkSJohnson
The lowered price of the receiver got me to thinking about upgrading, but I just found myself wondering:

If I ONLY bought the new Oppo wouldn't I achieve the same capabilities by using it's own decoding to output all the various soundtracks via it's analog outs (matching my current receiver's analog inputs). I could even bypass the receiver's lack of 3D capability by using the Oppo's 2nd HDMI output to go directly to my 3D-capable TV?

That should work, though you would have to change settings back and forth depending on what you were watching.

I'm in the same boat with 3D. Lucky for me my PS3 will do 3D and I can send audio to my avr via lpcm through my HDMI connection (at least I think so).

Hey, that Oppo even does SACD. smile

Edit: Are you allowed to play sacd in a square room?

Last edited by fredk; 11/17/14 06:06 PM.

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Re: Bless me Father for I have sinned....
fredk #408118 11/17/14 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted By: fredk

Edit: Are you allowed to play sacd in a square room?

I had to apply for a variance, but yes. As long as I don't listen critically!

I haven't spent more than 5 minutes in my woodshop since a project in April of 2013. Seriously.


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