Axiom Home Page Forums General Discussion Stereo M50 vs. M22 comparison

That is an Atari 2600. I should really dig it out again... Last year I decided to grab a bit of nostalgia off of eBay. Now I'm toying with the idea of getting a 5200 or a 7800. Anybody got preferences?

On the pictures, I think that's an artifact from the camera. Jen commented on that last night. When I looked at the wall, the pictures are straight, so I'm not sure what happened. If you look at the last picture, you can see that the top of the right M50 is more visible than the left. I must have moved when I was taking the picture or something.

Thanks for the compliments on the entertainment center. I'll try to grab a few more pics of it with less junk (cds, Netflix, etc.) all over it.

The magic of DIY + a whole lot of holes for the shelf supports...

I'm thinking about opening up the back of the receiver side a bit more, because although there's sufficient room for cooling, I didn't account for hhow much the cables have to turn. And lemme tell you, 4x14 gauge cables don't like turning much in small spaces... Believe it or not, the TiVo produces almost as much heat as the receiver, so that's why it's in the extremely large space on the right (and sitting on 4 unused/broken/sucky Atari cartridges)

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Now I'm toying with the idea of getting a 5200 or a 7800. Anybody got preferences?

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5200 - at least it had some games produced for it.

Bren R.

Ken have you experimented with speaker toe in? I think my M50s sound better with some toe in. I have them set so the outside sides are about parallel to the walls.

I've tried it, and I'm having trouble deciding which way I like them. I settled on no toe in yesterday, but I'm certainly willing to experiment!

I liked teh 7800 myself

And ya, I got a ReplayTV, its also gets REALLY hot.

It seems to me it takes awhile to determine what sounds better. Listening to a variety of music at different times & volumes.

My brother-in-law is a long time quasi low budget audiohpile. Meaning a $10,000 system instead of $30,000. Unbeleivable sound. He spent a lot of time moving his 200 pound Dunlavy towers a half an inch this way and that, marking positions with masking tape on the floor and then listening and measuring.

Listening at his place is what got us interested in hifi. It completely changed my experience of what music can be. It showed me how important positioning can be. Difficult too, when your room is used for other purposes. He puts nothing into a visually attractive setup, its all about the sound.

I'll be interested in hearing about your experiences over time.

Whew! - I'm normal.

I was getting a complex because my M60s haven't sat in the same spot for more than a few days at a time since I got them. My friends are giving me a hard time about moving them now. Hehe... they just don't get it.

Adding to Ken's note. I just increased the distance between the 60s from 9 feet to 11', and started trying various toe angles. The soundstage and image now fills the entire front wall of the room. Much better than it was before.

My right speaker has more toe in right now than the left one bacause it has to direct sound away from the end of a couch, towards the center of the room. I thought that non symetrical toe in would be bad. As far as I can tell there aren't any problems with it.

I'm surprised I'm the first to bring this up. I question the decision to stack the M22's upside down on top of the M50. That drastically raises the soundstage to a level that is not considered normal. For a better comparison I'd think that the M22's mounted on stands either to the left or right of the M50's so they were the same distance apart would have been a better setup. This would have replicated a more even soundstage height. I'm no expert but I'd think that the M22's would have sounded a lot different if set up close to the same height as the M50's.

It sounds like you guys had a good time anyway. Instead of music, next time try some movies. I understand this will make the A-B setup more difficult.

-Tom

OK, here's the skinny. Neither of us have stands, so we decided it would be best to try and get the tweeters at the same height, hence the weird setup. We did hear a positional change, but since the soundstage on the M22s was excellent, I think things were ok. On the movies, well, no surround sound, so what's the point?