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#52619 - 07/15/04 03:51 PM Re: OT: politics
md55 Offline
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Registered: 05/20/03
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I have my home page set at Google news. Usually multiple sources for each storyline. If something interests me further I will search the topic. I like to get different points of view from around the world. Its funny these days where stories come from. I wanted to see a what happened in the Masters golf tournament a while back and the New Delhi Times was the only one carrying it. Aljazeera and the Jeruselem Post, BBC World, Reuters, all good for differnt takes.

Ever have the opportunity to read newspaper stories about something you have first hand knowledge of? Generally not all that accurate at daily reporting in my experience.
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#52620 - 07/15/04 03:59 PM Re: OT: politics
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Registered: 12/30/03
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Loc: Cleveland, Ohio
I'm another Google news fan. I keep an icon on my desktop which takes me right there. I do watch TV network news, read the morning newspaper, and read TIME. I don't believe there is any "unbiased" reporting, so I do my best to gather the facts from as many different sources as possible, and sorta figure things out for myself as much as I can.
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#52621 - 07/15/04 05:27 PM Re: OT: politics
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In reply to:

I do my best to gather the facts from as many different sources as possible, and sorta figure things out for myself as much as I can.


If only the average citizen did as much.
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#52622 - 07/15/04 05:35 PM Re: OT: politics
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Hey, how come this dedicated politics thread is so civil?

Here's something to start a fire:

July 14, 2004 -- Commentator Connie Rice shares another one of her ever-popular top-10 lists: "Top 10 Weapons of Mass Distraction."

Number 10: Corporate Show Trials

Watching Martha, Ken and the Fastows doing the perp walk is a great diversion from the real crime. These show trials divert our focus to a few criminal acts from what's really wrong -- rules written by corporate lobbyists that legalized corporate tax evasion, corporate welfare, corporate pollution and looting.

Number 9: Donald Trump's TV Show The Apprentice

It's got us focused on Trump as this financial wizard and corporate titan -- someone people would kill off their competition to work for. In real life, his casinos are on the verge of bankruptcy and receivership.

Number 8: Bush's Anti-Gay Marriage Amendment

You'd think that marriage were somehow in imminent danger from gay infidels. But this is nothing more than a cynical wedge issue to increase the voter turnout of Christian evangelicals and cover broad failures of the Bush administration -- three million jobs lost, the biggest deficits in U.S. history, a failed war in Iraq and Osama bin Laden stronger than ever. GOP operatives manufacture a fake constitutional crisis over imaginary gay insurgents, and they aim for the brain stem so that we won't think about the bigger failures.

Number 7: Tom Ridge's Terror Alerts

No one knows what they mean. The last one warning that Bin Laden intends to attack this summer made no sense -- except to disrupt the Kerry-Edwards rollout. They are now rolling out plans for postponing the November election if an attack occurs.

Number 6: Rush Limbaugh

He's a masterful circus barker so skilled that he can seduce millions into surrendering their privacy rights under the USA Patriot Act. At the same time, he and the ACLU fight to keep his own medical records from a criminal drug investigation.

Number 5: Tax Cuts

The Bush administration has average Americans believing they are overtaxed and will benefit from cuts -- cuts that go overwhelmingly to folk richer than them, and result in cuts in services that they need but the rich don't.

Number 4: Ralph Nader

The only issue discussed is his "spoiler" role, the only people funding his candidacy are pro-Bush Republicans and the only outcome of his run is that the people he claims to care about -- the poor and the dispossessed -- will be devastated if Bush gets four more years to practice his "compassion."

Number 3: The Cult of Celebrity and Entertainment

We're laughing and entertaining ourselves to death. While our kids watch eight hours of TV a day, and more adults vote for the next American Idol than do for the next president, our democracy is being looted by superpower corporations and other high-octane interests.

Number 2: The Invasion of Iraq

There clearly was no reason to invade, other than to hide the fact bin Laden still hasn't been captured, and likely to remain so -- and the fact that Bush needed to kick any Arab butt he could to show that America hits back. Hussein's butt was the only one he could safely kick, so he did. Meanwhile, the war against al Qaeda flounders while the United States diverts its resources to the Iraq quagmire.

Number 1: The Republican Convention Lineup

They're going to dig up the few moderates (including Guiliani, Schwarzenegger, McCain and Romney) and black people they know and put them on TV, along with a whole bunch of black and Latino musical acts, to hide the real face of the GOP and its reactionary platform. The last convention looked like Saturday night at the Apollo -- there were more black people on stage than in the entire convention.

taken from npr.org
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#52623 - 07/15/04 05:48 PM Re: OT: politics
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Registered: 01/21/04
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HERE!! HERE!!

now thats some good political humor..

oh wait, was it meant to be a joke?? i know a lot of republicans that hope so.. else-wise, they been dupped!!

bigjohn
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#52624 - 07/15/04 05:59 PM Re: OT: politics
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If getting your news from NPR means you're a biased liberal then call me one too. At least when there is a commentary slant on NPR it's out in the open.

If you want to see an extreme example of media slant, check out the psudo-news on Pat Robertson's 700 Club just for grins. It is a hoot.
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#52625 - 07/15/04 06:10 PM Re: OT: politics
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Registered: 04/02/03
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Loc: Leesburg, Virginia
Hmmm, did I say start a fire? Well, here's something that will start a firestorm if it's true (I really, really, really hope none of it is true):

Seymour Hersch has seen taped video footage of US soldiers sodomizing Iraqi children

The commentary on the linked page is good and some of it points to corroborating evidence. You can also see his speech about 1h:30m into the video clip.

Personally, I am speechless and can only hope this didn't happen.
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#52626 - 07/15/04 06:23 PM Re: OT: politics
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Registered: 02/03/04
Posts: 715
Loc: Seattle WA
I saw that link on Metafilter and nearly crapped myself. I pray to god/allah/buddha/cows/trees that it's not true. I seriously nearly shed a tear just considering the idea.

jr
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#52627 - 07/15/04 07:28 PM Re: OT: politics
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Loc: Leesburg, Virginia
I should use a picture of Steven when he's sad and alternate my avatar depending on the tone of the post.... That one needs a very sad Steven.
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#52628 - 07/15/04 11:44 PM Re: OT: politics
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Registered: 02/04/04
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Loc: Omaha, Nebraska
RE:

In reply to:


July 14, 2004 -- Commentator Connie Rice shares another one of her ever-popular top-10 lists: "Top 10 Weapons of Mass Distraction."

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All I can say to all of that is:

Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.



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