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Re: A test question...
#55154 07/22/04 02:30 AM
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What volume did you plan to test at? Maybe do three tests - low, medium, loud?

How about including a plain-old joe-schmo type listener? "Somebody with a HTIB" kind of guy.

What will be the demo music? Hopefully not Alannis Morrissette. That seemed hand picked top make the M22s look bad. Maybe the demo music could be a little more diverse this time? A little classical, a little jazz, a little blues, a little reggae, etc...

And since you're assuming the purchasers will also be buying the package deals, are you also assuming there will be a subwoofer involved - and thus included in the test?
I know my M60s do benefit from a little sub accompaniment (sp?).

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#55155 07/22/04 02:41 AM
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BigWill... we listened to over 30 CD's with the last test.... Morrissette was not much of a factor... We did Classical, Jazz (Coltrane, Sanborn, Pomeroy, Bennett, Sinatra), Rock (Dire Straights, Pete Townsend, Pink Floyd, Steely Dan, Talking Heads) , Country, movies... you name it. Even Blue Man Group and Van Klampen. 1812 Overture... then movies in two channel.

And yes, we will do with and without subwoofer...

I also think the larger Axioms will help in the size room we use. As you live with speakers longer, you learn new things. One thing I have learned about the ELT-CSE, it is a KILLER speaker for playing loudly... The M22 and Ascend are much closer in Dynamics...

One thing, with TrueRTA, I can post pictures of graphs which will show what level each speaker can attain in dB from the listening position...

Finally... a regular schmoe... interesting thought... let me think of someone. I can picture it now... "Yes, you will not know which speaker you are listeing to, just tell me which is better..."A" or "B" ... "

Re: A test question...
#55156 07/22/04 02:54 AM
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#55157 07/22/04 02:57 AM
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Jack... THAT was more than adequate information... Actually, finding a HTIB guy who will sit for blind tests and tell you what he thinks is not an easy thing to do...

Let's face it, the reason we have these forums is most people think we are NUTS...

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Re: A test question...
#55159 07/22/04 03:36 AM
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Yeah, I guess. Maybe you could offer him some beer and burgers or something. Actually, I could go for some beer n' burgers.

Oh, and how about demoing some of the new audio formats and/or some DVDs?

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Besides SACD, DVD/A and Cd... any suggestions ? Movie suggestions also welcomed... By the way... listening to movies in two channel is pretty tough on the speakers.

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the movie 'open range' is in DTS format.. the opening chapter has a thunder storm that is soooo realistic that it sounds like it is raining in my living room.. also, the next to the last chapter is the gun fight, with shooting from all directions.. i found myself ducking for cover..

give it a try!!

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Re: A test question...
#55162 07/22/04 12:31 PM
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John... I LOVE Open Range... If you look at the original shootout thread, Open Range was mentioned as a new Standard for a subwoofer by our team on February 10 this year... plus We loved the movie... good call, and it will be included....

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#55163 07/22/04 01:57 PM
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John,

Had a very nice fellow come over to listen to my Axioms yesterday. He brought Open Range with him. You should have seen his eyes during the rain storm, and the shootout at the end. All he could say, with a touch of awe in his voice, was "It doesn't sound like that on my speakers."


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