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I liked Alan's analogy of tube amps being like a vintage car. Just because a '68 Mustang Fastback doesn't handle, or have amenities like a 2004 Mustang SVT Cobra doesn't mean that one's driving experience cannot be better in the older vehicle.

My take on all of this is that tube amps introduce some colorations to the music that some people may find preferable. I am curious enough to want to listen to one some day if I can. And I think we'd all be better off if people didn't take every question about tubes as a personal attack!

Mark

LOL!!

Hey, I lost some darn witty stuff in there too!

I think there should be beer and tubes in every thread. I think the heat of the tubes would be bad for my beer, however.

Yes, the Capn has been in fine form of late. I thoroughly enjoyed your mediation analogies. Adrien, is it slow in litigation land or something? Don't tell me you can't find anybody worth suing. (kind of reminds me of that old movie line about "he needed killin' anyway").

Ah, my cigar smoking, vintage car afficianado fan of Dr. Strangelove, how can you compare a tube amp to driving a vintage car when, although you have driven vintage cars, you've never listened to a tube amp?

I have suffered from an affection for vintage cars, and can tell you, that there is no comparison. Vintage cars are expensive and perform poorly by today's standards. A good tube amp is as good if not better than a solid state amp.

I've enjoyed a 1990 390 AMX 4 speed (not bad at all by current standards), a 1954 Hudson Hornet with the Twin-H 7X racing engine, and enjoyed the heck out of that one, but would concede a Honda Accord is an infinitely superior vehicle.

A good (modern) tube amp, on the other hand, reproduces music beautifully and gives up nothing to its sand based rivals.

Just my opinion of course. Yours may differ. It's still a free country.

Yes - its been a little slow in litigation land. Not that there aren't enough people to sue - but all the judges are out on the golf course, so there's nobody to listen to me anywhere but the boards....and yeah, it was a busy day on the boards. Fun too.

It was fun. You can be my lawyer any day! It was very impressive how you defused the situation.

I think too many people became emotional over the situation.
The remarks where entertaining though, I barely got any work done today.

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A good (modern) tube amp, on the other hand, reproduces music beautifully and gives up nothing to its sand based rivals.

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Nothing? Not even accuracy?

Going back to the car analogy, when I push the gas pedal 25% of the way down, I expect the car to accelerate at roughly 25% of its capability. When I push the pedal all the way down, I want it to accelerate at 100% of its capability. A solid state amp will give you linear, predictable results. A tube amp, however, introduces fluctuations in frequency response, so pushing the pedal 65% of the way may result in only 63.89% of total acceleration.

Damn! Missed another party. I was on a cross-country flight all day. (I'm in Maryland now.) Lucky for me it was jetBlue, so at least I had DirecTV.

Just read the thread here...gotta love a good debate...reminds me of the Harley / Japanese cycle debate, the blade / cavity back debate, instant replay, etc, etc

Still would love to hear a direct comparison of ss vs tubes for myself...maybe someday

Yeah, This one was better than the last one. It literally became ugly. The guy was bashing Ami. Not cool.
He definitely got what he deserved, in my opinion.

Harleys are crude, cavity backs are ugly.

Honda RC51, Valkyrie Rune for touring, Titleist Tour Blades, Tube amplifiers.

It's really simple ... really.

Oh, yes, almost forgot ... if you're not shifting, you're not driving - manual transmissions.