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This is my secon post in AXIOm, as I am new to the family. And proud o fit.
Hey is there good diagram on-line somewhere that I can see how to use different setups for different room and speaksers.


my main problem is the rear in which the couch is flush to the wall and their is no side walls.

I asume I can point the rears at each other toward the center of the couch...i this acceptable?

or cna the QS8 or 4s be mounted directly above the couch and listeneers heads? with no horizontal depth, just verticle?

thanks

dave

Hope these will help.

Dolby - Setting Up Your Home Theater

Home Theater 101 - Speaker Placement

Thanks man

I'll go check it out


I feel like I am waiting for my son to be born..with all the excitement about the new Axims and reciever LOL


thanks

dave

Hey Jack

looking at the Dolby Diagram


the QS series would be on the side as "surround"? and the M3ti in the back as REAR?

or shwith that around? on the 7.1 ?


in the 5.1 diagram...the "surroud" opn the sides could be either bookshelf 3Ti or the QS series?

I ask sinceI am not sure if we are achieving direct sound from the bookshelves pointed or radiant sound from the QS in the same position.

thanks again

dave

If you're running a 7.1 setup, it is my opinion that QS series speakers should be on the sides, and either QS or
direct radiating speakers (M3, M2, M22) in the rear.

In a 5.1 configuration, you are correct that you could use either direct radiating speakers (M2, M3, M22), or QS series speakers a your surrounds. I personally prefer the QS series speakers as surrounds, but there are others here who prefer direct radiating speakers.

Here's what the Axiom FAQ says about surrounds.

"Ideally, surround speakers should be either wall-mounted or stand-mounted to either side of the couch or primary listening area, from one to six feet higher than seated listeners' ears, and slightly forward or rearwards of the listening area if you wish. Axiom's Quadpolar surrounds are especially versatile and can yield excellent performance with stand or wall-mounting to the rear as well as at side locations. (see our dedicated stands for the QS Surround speakers in the Store). Rear center speakers for 6.1 and 7.1 installations are intended to go on the rear wall at about the same height as the surround speakers."

Since your couch will be flush against the back wall, I would think 5.1 would do just fine with the QS series, or direct radiating speakers, mounted on the side slightly in front of the listening area. In your other post you mention not having walls on either side of the couch, so you would have to mount the direct radiating speakers on stands of some sort. If you went with the QS series speakers for surrounds, you could mount them on the Axiom stands, or hang them from the ceiling (if that's possible) with either the Omnimount ceiling mount, or the Axiom Full Metal Bracket (FMB).

Excellent advice all around Jack, but:

"...there are others here who prefer direct radiating speakers (as surrounds)."

Who?

Thanks Mark. I think Whatfurrer uses 22s as surrounds, and maybe FordPrefect, but I'm not sure about that one.

you hit it right on for both the 5.1 and 7.1

That is basically what I concluded as well. I think even with the couch flush, I can squeeze the M3ti on brackets on the wall right behind us...it migh be tight, between them and the Qs to the imeadiate sides, but should work.

I am sure I will still get some noticable sound from REAR even being so close to the surrounds on the side...i hope!

Sorry Jack, your memory has let you down I've got QS8s for surrounds.

Ford

I'm not trying to talk you out of 7.1, but it doesn't seem like you need it in the room you describe. The QS8s spray sound all over the place. You'll get so many reflections off the back wall you'll think it IS 7.1.

I said "I'm not sure about that one." That only counts a half a memory let down.

Jack,

You are correct, sir...I use M22's on 31" stands as surrounds in a 5.1 setup. They are to the sides of the prime seating area near the back corners of the room. They sound absolutely awesome! Master and Commander's walking on deck sounds just like that...you are below deck and someone is walking overhead!

I personally believe the only speakers that could better them would be the QS8's and the main reason I am using the M22's is because I am in a rent house...no more additional holes in the walls...

Virtualexister,

Here are some images for examples sake. I will probably (after getting another receiver that will handle it) purchase a set of QS8's for surrounds and leave the M22's as rears.

I hope this helped to confuse you even more...

I think you cannot go wrong with either solution...

WhatFurrer

Let me chime in real quick about 7.1

I have just set up my HT this weekend (we finally got moved and I finally got to unpack my system -after waiting 16 weeks!). I wired up my deal-e-o for 7.1, using M60, VP100 and QS8, and two cheapo surround backs. I sit against the back wall in my living room. I mounted one Q to the left on a wall abotu 2 feet in front of me, 6.5 feet up. The right surround is on the back wall, about the same distance away from the seating area as the left speaker. The two rears are in between the surrounds on the back wall, firing up (so as to avoid being blasted by sound firing right into the back of my head - they reflect off of the ceiling this way too).

Here are my impressions from my far from perfect 7.1 set-up. With the QS8s, 5.1 is about as enveloping as I could want or ever need. Also - 6.1 DTS discrete soundtracks (like the LOTR:EE discs) sound good, but the jump up from 5.1 to 6.1 in that instance is pretty minor. Using the Dolby Pro Logic IIx, 5.1 sounds really great! There is lots of activity coming from the surroudn backs - but not so much as to soudn gimicky or fake. I have my system set up to run IIx all the time when watching 5.1 and 2 channel content. I haev yet to decide whether I will switch to DTS + IIx for 6.1 content.

Anyway - bottom line is this...with the QS8's, I wouldn't feel like I was missing anything if I lacked the 6th and 7th channels. But, I do find it fun to have 7.1 in my room, if nothing more than to stroke my male ego....

Go with the 7.1 - nobody will be able to convince you otherwise. If it doesn't work out, you can always send the speakers back or use them in a second room.