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Re: Need some expert ADVICE
#60819 09/14/04 10:58 PM
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Acoustically, my new place isn't as good as my last apartment. My apartment had a nice big living room with wall-to-wall carpeting. My new place has a living room about 50% smaller, with hard wood floors.

Things still sound good, but not as "open" as before, because my speakers are closer together, and I'm sitting closer to them. In fact, in a room the size I have now, the M22's would likely be the better choice than the M60's. (When you take price into consideration as well)

That's not to say I'm not still VERY happy with my setup. I am!



Re: Need some expert ADVICE
#60820 09/14/04 11:24 PM
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OK here are the room diminsions:

45Lx15Wx8H

65in sits in front of room, couch is about 14ft from front of TV. Behind the couch is open space that cannot be closed off because the stairs from the wifes part of the home connect to mine.....

My dilema is this............M60 VP150 QS8 = $1600
have been looking at this....M50 VP100 QS8 = $1300

However, I have heard to get a good center to make a good system?? Is the extra money worth this...

Ascends are cheaper, will they sound as good?
CMTm 340 = $650 (with stands)
CMTc 340 = $300
CBM 170 = $330
Total = 1280

What you guys think?????

Just to through a loop in here I have even looked at the Diva Swans 5.2 with the C3 and R3 can get for about $1500??

Give me some advice here to fill this room for 95% HT

Thanks Todd


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Re: Need some expert ADVICE
#60821 09/14/04 11:26 PM
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Jack, by the way I am assuming you are a BROWNS fan...I am a season ticket holder...Where are you from??

Todd


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Re: Need some expert ADVICE
#60822 09/14/04 11:35 PM
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If you use the System Advisor on the Ascend site...the total cost of the package you are looking at is $1078 plus the stands ($100).

As far as sounding as good as the Axiom setup, that is subjective.

Seriously, the only real definitive way you are going to know if you like any speaker is if you hear them for yourself. Everything you are looking at has a great reputation.

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#60823 09/14/04 11:55 PM
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Both Axiom and Ascend make incredible speakers. I've heard both and I like both. My only concern for you is the size of your room. That's a mighty large space to fill, even with the decent sized 340's.

Are there no Axiom or Ascend owners near you for you to give a listen first?



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#60824 09/15/04 12:43 AM
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I just saw the size of the room! Yow...that is big! Will the speakers be along the long wall or short wall? On the long wall, no problem. If on the short wall, how far back from the speakers will you be sitting?

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#60825 09/15/04 01:42 AM
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That room is HUGE!

I would go with the M60 VP150 QS8 option. Although I have not listened to the Ascends I do know the Axioms are great. If you really want that room to be off the hook go with a second sub along with a total of 4 QS8's. If you do that you will never leave the place but the extra pair of QS8's and sub may be a future thought but one that is recomended.

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#60826 09/15/04 02:01 AM
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How about some M80's on that list,that is an awfull big room.


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Re: Need some expert ADVICE
#60827 09/15/04 02:50 AM
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Jack, by the way I am assuming you are a BROWNS fan...I am a season ticket holder...Where are you from??


Good assumption! I'm in Fairview Park. Used to be a season's ticket holder, but watch the game from warmer seats now............right here in my living room. But, I'm still a huge fan. Where are you?

Trying to fill the entire area of your room (5400 cubic feet), would be quite a challenge. I certainly don't have any experience with a room that large. But, if I understand you correctly, your listening area is roughly 15 wide by 14 deep with a large open space (15x31 feet) behind the couch. I suspect either of your choices would fill that area OK.

OK. Next question. What is your ratio of movie watching to music listening? I.E., 40% movies, 60% music? Or, 70% movies, 30% music. I ask because the Ascend and Axiom packages you are talking about come with different types of surround speakers. The 170s are direct radiating speakers, while the QS8s are quadrapolar, dispersing surrounds. You should take that difference into consideration when making your decision.

Curtis' advice to hear the speakers for yourself, if possible, is a good one. Which sounds better is a VERY subjective decision influenced by many factors including the size and configuration of your room, your hearing, and your personal tastes.


Jack

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Re: Need some expert ADVICE
#60828 09/15/04 03:23 AM
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My speakers are along the short wall

<15ft>
----------------------
/Sub..S..TV..S........./
/--------------------/
/--------------------/
/-------14ft---------/
/--------------------/
/R-----couch-------R/
/--------------------/
/--------------------/
/--------28ft--------/
/--------------///////
/------------- stairs/
/--------------///////
/--------------///////
----------------------

Here is my layout...
I cannot go with M80, a little out of budget.
My budget started at $1800 but I have already dropped $1300 on receiver and Sub. This stuff gets expensive!!!!

I will listen to HT 95% of the time, will not need to fill room, just to seating position that is shown in graph. Have been thinking of make a pulldown curtain behind couch to seperate room and keep sound up front...Any suggestions on that subject??

What is the major difference in the two rear spearkers??
QS8 and CM170, Could I go with the M50 upfront or spend a little extra and get the M60s??

I can get B-stock Ascends for $1100 340's upfront with 170 rears...How bad are B-stocks??

PLEASE HELP I AM FROM CHILLICOTHE OHIO IN THE HILLS...Do not know of anyone in this area with these speakers


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