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Re: Rocket 750 vs Axiom M60
#62255 10/20/04 05:30 AM
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There's always a downside to free speech...

Nice cottage country around Dwight, ON actually.

Enjoy your Rockets, I hope they don't feeded you any lies.

Bren R.

Re: Rocket 750 vs Axiom M60
#62256 10/20/04 07:17 PM
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Unless Ian and Amie build the speakers themselves, Axiom does create jobs in Canada, right?

Also, one of the reviews of the new Axiom subs said something like, "No cheap Chinese baskets here," in reference to the new drivers in the subs. Sounds like the new subs have domestically sourced drivers? Maybe there will be a new line of speakers with drivers from the same source?
I'm sure it will affect the price, but it still would be nice to see. We all complain about the economy and then run around buying foreign crap (I'm guilty, too ).

Re: Rocket 750 vs Axiom M60
#62257 10/20/04 07:27 PM
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From a labour standpoint...

Creating a job isn't a great accomplishment.

Creating a job that pays a living wage in a standard 40 hour week with benefits and a pension - that's an accomplishment.

Bren R.

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#62258 10/20/04 08:19 PM
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Any job - even one that is "beneath you" - is preferrable to no job. I have no idea what the jobs at Axiom pay, but it has to be better than what Rocket pays their Chinese workers. Even if Axiom paid minimum wage now, the eventual success of the company would certainly trickle down to the employees in the form of increased wages and benefits.

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#62259 10/20/04 09:34 PM
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In reply to:

Any job - even one that is "beneath you" - is preferrable to no job.



An antiquated position still held by a lot of generations past. Basic economics prove it wrong now though. Minimum wage is below the poverty line in most industrialized countries, and no matter how little a person makes, the cost of living doesn't have graduations down that low. It still costs $X for one person to live, $Y for a couple to live, $Z for a single mother of one to live, etc... that "top up" money comes from the social program system. Feel like you're taxed to death? Make sure you're not wage-sharing with a corporation.

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Even if Axiom paid minimum wage now, the eventual success of the company would certainly trickle down to the employees in the form of increased wages and benefits.



I'd rather stay in the hypothetical - I'm not sure what Axiom pays either. But "trickle down economics"? I haven't even heard a politician try to resurrect that dead dog in the past 15 years! The basic premise is it works like a shingled roof - the more water you pour on the top shingle, the more eventually reaches the bottom shingle. The difference is, a shingle doesn't decide how much of it's water it's going to "bless" the lower courses with.

Wow, I feel like I'm back in the 80s when governments had to find ways of explaining how corporate welfare (see Pacific Lumber/Maxxam, Frito-Lay (& subsidiaries Taco Bell/KFC), GM, Ford, Boeing, Lockheed) was a good boost for the economy. Now they don't even need to try to rationalize it. Hell, even the compensation packages to families who lost relatives in the attacks on the WTC buildings include a clause preventing lawsuits against the airlines, government sets a new precedent (never before have they stepped in to compensate victims of crime) and it directly benefits the airlines.

AFDC (Aid For Dependant Corporations) is something most Americans don't even know they're paying for, though they'll complain mercilessly that they don't want social aid for the needy. It's a matter of the bum of the rods and the bum on the plush.

"Uh, hey... how does a 30 billion dollar bailout for a privately owned trillion dollar corporation from government sources make any financial sense."
'It's good for the economy'
"Oh, well, then... sorry I even asked... carry on!"

Bren R.

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You go, Bren!

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#62261 10/20/04 10:06 PM
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Take it to the politics thread, boys.


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#62262 10/20/04 10:10 PM
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He'll show up as ProMarkinBecher.


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#62263 10/21/04 02:09 AM
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Sorry, truthfully it wasn't meant to go in that direction, but once you get started...

My apologies for filibustering.

Bren R.

Re: Rocket 750 vs Axiom M60
#62264 10/21/04 05:06 PM
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Maybe we need to start an int'l political economy thread where the "everything sucks" Marxists and the "Oh my God, my life is better than that of ALL my forebears" Liberals can duke it out.

An entry level job is better than no job. It gives one hope for better things. As a teacher, if I told all of my graduating students to not accept any job that pays less than $40K or lacks benefits, I'm afraid they would never be employed.

We don't know what poor is anymore.


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