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Advice on which set of Axioms to go with.
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I am starting to do some research and put together some speaker packages, I want new fronts, two surrounds and a center; I already have an HSU STF-2 so I am good in the sub department. My budget is $1,00-1,200 max and I have heard nothing but great things about Axiom speakers, so they are my top consideration at the moment. I am currently looking at M22ti’s for fronts, QS4’s for surrounds and a VP150 for the center. I have heard many good things about the M22’s but would I be better off getting the M50ti towers for fronts instead? I am not sure they will offer much more over the 22’s besides bass response but I am not sure. Also I was considering the M3ti bookshelves for surrounds instead of the Q4’s, it would be a bit cheaper but I am not sure how much better surrounds the Q4’s make. If I did get the M50’s I would have the get the M3’s for surrounds anyway to stay within my budget. And finally I was even considering the M60’s for fronts the M2’s for surrounds and the VP100 center, this would still be within my budget but it may be a bit unbalanced, as far as having killer fronts but cheaper surrounds and center.

Anyway I guess I am just looking for advice on what the best package of Axiom speakers (minus the sub) for under $1,200 would be. I don’t want to skip on the fronts nor the center (not sure if the VP100 will be good enough), I guess the surrounds are the least important to me, I just can’t see going for the QS8’s and spending more on my surrounds than my fronts (If I got the M22’s). Even the QS4’s seem a bit much at $370, that’s why I am looking at the M3’s for surrounds instead, but the Q4’s do seem like a neat design and may make things more immersive and be worth the price. But another thing I thought about concerning the QS4’s was the fact that they may not be good for multi channel music (DVD-A), so I may be better off with the M3’s for surrounds if I get a DVD player with these capabilities. Finally instead of ordering them all at once I plan on ordering just the M22’s (if I go with those) first and listening to them for a while to see if I really love them, and if I do I will order the rest, if not I will pay the return shipping and looks elsewhere. Thanks for any advice on this!


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How big is your room?

Quadpole (QS4) versus direct radiators (M3s) is a personal preference. Most people find it fatiguing to be able to localize surround sound, the QS4s are very immersive - and even though they get a bad rap here (because they have a big brother in the QS8s - for only $100 more you get twice as many QSes, whatever those are!) I have the QS4s and they do a very good job... unless of course, you need power handling of 400 watts in a surround?!?

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Thanks for the response, my room is 19 x 11, not sure of the ceiling height (I am at college right now so I can’t measure), but it is not huge, 7 1/2 or 8 feet maybe.

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Matt, without knowing your room size and layout I can just give a little input on my own system. I had a budget similar to yours and went with the following: M22 fronts, QS4 surrounds and a single M2 center. I seriously considered going with M3's upfront, but ultimately am very happy with the M22. No upgradeitis at all. The QS4's are great speakers SACDs and DVD-s sound incredible. You can always try the QS4's and upgrade to the QS8's if you feel it's necessary. I went with a single M2 center as a cost saving option and it works well for me. I would like to compare the sound of the VP100 or VP150 to see if it would help with dialogue for those on the room's periphery. If you will be able to sit in your "sweet-spot" the M2 is a viable center option.
What do you have for a receiver? I'm running HK's cheapest HT receiver the AVR 130 and for an entry level unit it does a good job. Good luck.


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My listening area is 15x15 roughly and I've got the M3s and QS4s - still waffling on which centre to buy but the Axioms definately do their thing in my space.

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#64337 10/13/04 07:19 PM
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QS4's, M22's and whatever you decide for a center in a room that size should be great. You can always call the folks at Axiom, they shoot straight and will give you good advice.


M22's, VP150, QS4's, HK 630, HSU VTF3-MKII
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but the Axioms definately do their thing in my space.


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Where do you cross your QS4s? I've had them sound pretty bad in 5 stereo (very much straining on the bass), but they work well for DD, DTS, etc. I've got them crossed at 100 right now.


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The QS4s are -3db at 100Hz, so you may want to bump the xover up a bit, if possible. You'd ideally want the xover set at the point slightly above where the QS4 just begins to loose its oomph.

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