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I'm having technical difficulty. I just got the Denon DVD-2200 and hooked it up to my Denon AVR-3805. I hooked it up with the seperate channel interconnects(mains, center, sub, and surrounds) I get DVD picture on the tv but no sound playing either CD's or DVD's. Has anyone had this trouble and if so how did you fix it.
Thanks in advance
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This is just a hunch, but I think those analog outs are only used with SACD and DVD-A, not DVD (digital out) or CD (digital or 2 channel analog out). Try hooking up a digital cable. You should probably reassign some inputs on the receiver to line things up proper.
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Ken's right. You gotta run either an optical, or coaxial digital cable to your receiver, and, in the appropriate menu in your receiver (probably "Input Setup Menu," or something like that), be sure the digital input is set to the input you have the DVD connected to.
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Mac, briefly, as Ken and Jack said, those multiple analog connections are really only necessary for DVD-A/SACD, and you've only mentioned CDs and DVDs. The first thing is to take one of those cables and connect the 2200's digital coax output to the 3805's digital coax input.
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Wow, I got to be right about a universal player for once. Woohoo!
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I have 2 SACD's and have noty tried them yet.I'm going out to the stereo room now to try DSOTM. I'll let you know if it works. If not I'll get the digital'optical cable and try it.
Thanks for the inputs so far.
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Mac, there's no need to buy an optical cable. You apparently have plenty of coaxial cables and one of them can be used for the digital connection. Also, as always, study both owners manuals to try to get the right settings.
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With my Sony DVD player I also had to go into the menus and enable the digital output from the DVD player -- it was turned off by default so there was only a signal on the stereo analog outputs. Your Denon probably won't need this, I mention it just in case you hook up with a digital connection and it *still* doesn't work.
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The SACD disk still did not work. John, I'm not using coax cables, just plain old analog interconnects. That might be my problem right there.
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That shouldn't be a problem. Cables is cables, or at least cables enough to hear something if you're of the expensive cable persuasion.
How do you have everything hooked up? Does your receiver have a separate setting for 5/6/7/8 channel inputs? Mine does, but it's an H/K. I wouldn't unplug part of the 6 cable bundle to use as a digital cable (that would be a pain to put back, JohnK!), but if you've got an extra analog interconnect/coax/RCA cable/hanger with RCA plugs at the ends lying around, use that.
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Not all cables are created equal. If the cable is a cheapo RCA it might not pass a digital coax signal. I have a set of stereo RCA's sitting here that will not pass a digital coax signal.
This is yet another example of why there is some truth to the argument that not all cables are the same.
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Oh yeah? Well, I betcha I could make them pass a digital signal! j/k
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I will send them to you and you are free to try! I have tried a few times on various equipment and they won't do it. They are even Ultra Links which some think are a decent cable. But no matter what I have tried them with, they won't work on a digital coax out.
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I take it they work just fine with analog signals? That's so weird.
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Yeah they do. I think it's a bandwidth thing. I know that you need a little more to push a digital signal. Most push 75ohm but you really need less then half of that.
I'm lost but I have a few more that won't do it either!
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But what about the wire hangars?
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I maybe on an impass right now because I sent my remote for the 3805 in for repairs and haven't gotten it back yet. I tried to manually set all the right settings in both units and haven't hit the right combo yet. I guess it's back to the manuals some more. I'll keep you all posted if I make any ground breaking progress
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You need a LOT more bandwidth to push a digital signal through the wire. Analog signals need (say) 20KHz, 5.1 digital needs at least a few MHz...
I learned this at the tender age of 19, the first time I tried to run a 4 GHz satellite signal through a jumper cable. It was the strangest thing, there was signal at one end but NOTHING at the other end
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Hate to be picky, but kHz and MHz are measures of frequency, not bandwidth. (This is when someone gets to step in and make me wrong, again.)
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If you are using the analog outputs on the 2200 to the 3805 receiver you need to set the receiver to analog instead of digital.
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Mac, if you mean that now you tried to get SACD output from the digital output on the 2200, it's impossible; for SACD you have to use the multiple analog connections. No, the cables wouldn't cause a complete failure of sound transmission, regardless of whether they're called analog or digital or coaxial or whatever. No "pushing" is involved, and at the short distances involved any type of wire cable easily passes digital CD and DVD-Video sound.
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I found it!! I got my remote back and hit the manuals again. once I found the elusive setting (Digital) it worked like a champ for both the DVD's and CD's. That said my SACD disk of DSOTM is beyond amazing. It sounds awsome.
Thanks agin to everyone for your help and advice.
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