Axiom Home Page Forums General Discussion Technical Questions M60ti binding posts

Evening all,

Could someone who owns the M60ti speakers please help me out? I need to know the diameter of the binding posts on the back of your speakers.

I purchased the speaker cables and got the ¼” spade ends (since the site says that the speakers take a ¼” spade). But, the binding post on the back of my M60ti is 3/8”. Am I missing something here or is old age effecting me more than I thought?

On a side note I received my speakers Monday and they are stunning. (Warm cheery wood finish with white grills.) They go with the room very well and the finish was well worth the extra $$. Unfortunately I haven’t gotten to listen to them yet, since my receiver didn’t arrive until today. I am sure though that they will sound as good as they look!!!

Thanks for your time.

Oh it's definitely "old age" that's affecting you more than you thought. "Old age" is contagious around here. I caught it from Ray. .

I just unscrewed the outer binding post on one of my M60s (took it completely off), removed the metal jumper, whipped out my trusty ruler, and measured the gap on the jumper, which would represent the spade you would need to go around the post. The gap is, indeed, 3/8 inch. I too found the statement "Axiom speakers are designed for use with the 1/4" spade connector" on the cables web page.

If you purchased your cables form Axiom, just give them a call. They'll make it right. You might also nicely point out their error.

i actually just emailed brent from axiom earlier today and could have sworn he said that they take the 1/4 inch too. the email is at work though i will post it tomorrow if nec.

Thank you for the quick reply.

I called Axiom earlier, they asked me to call again in the morning. I was just making sure I wasnt having a senior moment or something. Of course if this was a senior moment it would be my first, since I dont remember having any in the past.

Well, if you ARE a senior, OF COURSE you don't remember having any senior moments in the past. You probably can't remember what you had for dinner. Or, for that matter, even if you HAD dinner. (Does anybody know if I ate today? )

The speakers will take ¼ inch spades. Just slip one of the forks into where you would normally put bare wire. Good luck!

DelD, will you send pics? Must..... have..... pics.

MiniRock,

I tried attaching the cables in this way, but it just looked and felt like a poor connection. Appears to me a 3/8" spade would fit and provide a better connection. Maybe I am just being overly picky, about the whole thing. (I worked for an electrician for 4 years while in school and attaching a spade connection in this manner just rubs the rhubarb the wrong way.)

Also, the back of one of my speakers (Right front) is semi exposed to the doorway coming into my great room. Although most my friends would probably never notice how the ¼” spade was connected, a few of them would definitely notice. The back of the HT system is exposed to the same doorway, it is the main reason I am using nice terminated cables. I bought Bluejean cables for the rest of the audio and video connections. I just wanted everything to look nice and of course be functional.

I will call Axiom this morning and I am sure they will work with me. But if they don’t, well it’s not hard to remake the ends of the cables.

Take care,

Del

DelD,

The M60's binding posts, and ALL the binding posts on all of the Axiom speakers will indeed accept a 1/4-inch spade lug as well as 3/8-inch spades.

First unscrew the binding-post knob all the way, then lift up the little gold washer at the bottom. Below the threads, on the post, you will see in indent into each side of the post. That is where you put the 1/4-inch spade! See?

Brent is correct and so are the instructions. This may not be true of older Axiom models because we did change the binding posts quite awhile ago.

Regards,

Thanks for the clarification alan. I didn't know that.

Did anyone know that? I went through this exact same thing and settled on banana's in the end. In fact I still have a bunch of the spades that I 'couldn't use'. Time to redo my cables - I actually love messing around with my stuff almost as much as listening to it!

Pretty sneaky hiding it like that.

If I understood a previous post correctly I did the same thing with my QS8's: I put one blade of a spade through the center hole while the other blade was alongside the post.

I thought it was just me....it's good to see no one else did it right either! This forum grades on a curve, right?

>>First unscrew the binding-post knob all the way, then lift up the little gold washer at the bottom. Below the threads, on the post, you will see in indent into each side of the post. That is where you put the 1/4-inch spade! See?

Cool !!

Alan,

Thank you very much for the post, unfortunately putting on a ¼” spade isn’t as easy as it sounds.

First you are correct there is a slot on the binding post that will accept a ¼” spade (barely), in fact the spade will fit on one of the posts on the positive side, but not the other.

Secondly there is a cross over between the upper and lower post, this cross over also connects in the same place that the slot is for the ¼” spade. You have to take everything apart, move the cross over above washer (on both posts) while holding the ¼” spade under the washer on the bottom post.

As much as it sounds like I am being critical here, that is not my intention. Just trying to point out my problems with the ¼” spade.

Thanks again for your post.

Del

Deld,

Why won't your 1/4-inch spade lug fit on the other post? The indents on each post are consistent, or should be. Are there variations in the inside measurement of your lugs?

If there are inconsistencies in the posts, I want to know about them so we can demand greater precision from our supplier.

Regards,

Hi Alan,

Not to be picky or anything, but one of my binding posts on one of my M60's is missing the hole where bare wire goes. It's not a problem though as I just use the other set. I just thought that was odd.

SonicFox,

Missing the hole? That's serious! Maybe the post got rotated (here's hoping. . ) so the hole is crossways? Anyway, I've relayed various comments to my colleagues at the plant, so much measurement and inspection is taking place.

I inspected and measured the 1/4-inch indents on the posts on my M2i's and M80s and they all measured 1/4-inch. None were missing the hole. How bizarre!

Regards,

Del, Sorry for the hi-jack, but is there anyway you could post pictures of the white grilles on the warm cherry cabinets? I would love to see them!

Alan,

Thank you for your concern, I had a number of posts that the ¼” spade wouldn’t fit. Not that it mattered too much; I just bent them out a bit. The way I look at it, is that the binding post are 3/8” so actually the speakers are made to accept a 3/8” spade, but they will accept a ¼” spade due to the slot. The web site says that the speakers are made to accept a ¼” spade, which “technically” is a true statement. But actually the ¼” spade is a pain to put on the speaker and the 3/8” spade would be the better choice. I would have bought the 3/8” spade if I had known the binding posts were 3/8”.

Real80sman,

I am going to post pics once I get my stand completed, which should be next weekend. A decent stand is expensive, $750 - $1000 just for a halfway decent stand; double that for a nice one. I figure I can build one for less than $500 and get to keep all the tools I need to buy. (i.e. $150 biscuit joiner)

Speakers look great and sound even better, although I haven’t had time to set everything yet. I haven’t had a new receiver in about 10 years, so I am going through a bit of a learning curve with the 3805. I bought the SPL meter, so just waiting on the Avia DVD to arrive.


Take care,

Del D