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Re: Axiom or Rocket - Buying without audition
#72631 12/19/04 05:52 AM
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>>I cannot say whether the dissatisfaction was from too much treble or too much distortion.

Hmmm... don't suppose you know anyone in the area with a real good system you could crank up with the same music and tell us what you think ?

In terms of driver complement the Q1s seem to be comparable to Axiom M3s so either the Rocket 750s or the M80s are going to be an incredible jump up in ability to play loudly and cleanly.

I haven't seen enough direct comparisons of the two speakers to offer much advice on which you would like better. I have seen two such reviews -- one says the Rockets are brighter than the Axioms, the other says the Axioms are brighter than the Rockets. Bah !!

We're all hoping "lomb7" comes back with a direct comparison of Rocket 750s and M60s.


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Re: Axiom or Rocket - Buying without audition
#72632 12/19/04 09:00 AM
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T-shirt, sounds nice. We are in light coat weather in Alberta around 0-5C or 32-40'sF.
I have some M22's and have played metal (Van Halen, Aerosmith etc) at the volumes you speak of and find it sounds like a concert. Afterall isn't that what we are looking for? The high's are high and the lows are low(with a sub in my case)and with hard rock the highs can get pretty high. I have found guitars and pianos sound extremely life like, as if the performer was in the room. As it has been stated, one person's too high is another's detail. It really is a preference thing. I had my system up to 95db for 2 hrs and I thought it was great. Then my wife came home and reality set in. BTW, I run a Denon 1804 so the receiver should be no problem. Also the finish on the Axiom's really is better than most people say. My wife thought it was real veneer till she touched it and even then she wasn't sure as it has a kind of grain to it. Good luck on your choice.


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Re: Axiom or Rocket - Buying without audition
#72633 12/19/04 04:21 PM
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Wow!! That would hurt.

Marble floors........sounds sweet.

A couple thoughts.....

You could order the M80's and ask Axiom to send you some resistors. If they are too "bright" for you tastes, the resistors will tame them down a little for you. I haven't installed them, but might just to see what the difference will be. The only reason I would, is that I have no treble control.

I hate to throw my opinion out there about sound comparison, but you're pretty much screwed on the auditioning idea. See if you can find a set of Paradigm Studio ref III's. The 100's sounded more like the M80's than the 703's did in my opinion.

I was wearing a T-shirt yesterday. It was raining and a balmy 38 deg. Today it's snowing and 29, so I reckon I better put a coat on, or stay indoors finishing my HT Room.

Re: Axiom or Rocket - Buying without audition
#72634 12/19/04 05:34 PM
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Nat, have you tried talking directly to Axiom? They might be able to work something out with you based on your unique circumstances. Their Customer Service is exceptional. Who knows - they might be crazed trying to figure out how to get an Axiom toehold in Oman.

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Re: Axiom or Rocket - Buying without audition
#72635 01/06/05 02:17 AM
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I believe that I owe everyone an update and closure to my dilemma. Everyone was very nice (in both Axiom and AV123 forums) and I am posting this updatee in both sites.

After completing all the commercial discussions, I found that the rockets are MUCH more expensive to SHIP. Therefore, the complete SHIPPED to Oman price difference between the Rockets 750 7 speaker package and the Equivalent Axiom 7 speaker package (M80 ... etc) is more than $2500. I cannot justify paying double the price of Axiom for the Rockets.

So I decided to go with the Axiom package.

I placed an order for the following Axiom Package:

M80ti x Pair
VP150
QS8 x 2 Pairs
Wall Brackets


These were shipped today and I cannot wait for them to arrive.

Strange that after all those attempts to evaluate the speaker performance and sound re-production, things boil down to commercial issues for a final decision

Thanks for all the help that everyone provided.



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Re: Axiom or Rocket - Buying without audition
#72636 01/06/05 02:41 AM
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Congatulations, Nat! While I wished you were able to get what you truly wanted, you might find yourself pleasantly surprised by your new Axioms.

My Axioms(M60's,VP150,QS8's)arrived last Friday and I have been listening to them non-stop since then. I don't find my Axioms to be bright at all. I have listened to them at rediculously loud volumes....enough to clip my receiver once,in fact; and never did I find them bright or fatiguing. Rather, they sound just as good as they do at normal listening levels.

DVD's are fantastic....the QS8's are amazingly good. I only hope you find yours as satisfying as I have found mine to be.

After you get them hooked up, give it a week of listening to CD's and DVD's and then let us know your thoughts.



Re: Axiom or Rocket - Buying without audition
#72637 01/06/05 02:53 AM
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Hey Nat! Thanks for coming back and letting us know what you chose to do. I know you must've had a tough time coming to a decision, but I think you'll be happy with your purchase. Keep in mind that Axioms WILL reveal a poorly mixed or mastered CD. And, keep in mind that your room will have a major influence on how your speakers sound.

If you'll give us an idea of the kind of music you enjoy, maybe we can give you some suggestions for some well mixed and mastered CDs for your inaugural experience with the Axioms.

If we can help in any other way, don't hesitate to call on us.


Jack

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Re: Axiom or Rocket - Buying without audition
#72638 01/06/05 03:20 AM
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Nat, too bad you had to make a decsion based on cartage. The good news is that you will have some audio working for you shortly. Keep us on baord. Also, I for one would be fascinated to see what a set of Axioms look like in an Omani home, so pictures please.

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