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Re: HSU VTF3 MK2 VS. EP350 Showdown!! Plus a supri
#78549 01/23/05 02:28 PM
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Mark:
Excellent, excellent review! Thanks for taking the time to share!


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Re: HSU VTF3 MK2 VS. EP350 Showdown!! Plus a supri
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Nice job Mark! It's nice to see the 350 hold its own against the HSU. The SVS is looking like a nice upgrade opportunity from my 20-39 PCi.

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Re: HSU VTF3 MK2 VS. EP350 Showdown!! Plus a supri
#78552 01/24/05 01:18 AM
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Re: HSU VTF3 MK2 VS. EP350 Showdown!! Plus a supri
#78553 01/24/05 01:16 PM
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Re: HSU VTF3 MK2 VS. EP350 Showdown!! Plus a suprise!
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Something about this "review" just doesn't smell right. I cannot quite put my finger on it, but it looks like the thread originator is really deep-down an SVS schill looking to pimp their product. These people exist for SVS on virtually all internet audio forums across the net.

We are on an Axiom board, so you needed to give some (albeit very few) props to the Axiom sub mentioned.

Hsu is by far SVS's closest competitor, so you needed to spread some bad word about the Hsu sub mentioned (not to mention the "my friend got it from ebay" comment, so that no one can identify the owner).

The entire "review" was written in such a way to set up the behemoth SVS as the king for music and movies.

Anyone who has carefully listened to an SVS will know that they are more suitable for big bang movies. Describing them as a musical instrument is laughable, and clearly shows that something is amiss here.

All things considered, just too convenient to be an honest review.

Re: HSU VTF3 MK2 VS. EP350 Showdown!! Plus a suprise!
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Hi Mark,

Thank you so much for sharing your experience. I think your comments go a long way in helping people appreciate, albeit anecdotally, that the Axiom subs are of very high quality, even with respect to the current pervasive internet buzz about other companies.

I'm happy to read some subjective comments (sounds more "musical", etc.); frankly, I think people focus too much on the notion that sub performance is completely quantifiable. I don't understand why subwoofers would be immune to the same premise that we apply to other speakers - that some models simply sound "better" TO ME and some are going to sound better TO YOU.

I am not surprised that the significantly more expensive SVS was preferred. Again, it is an old saw worth repeating: making a good loudspeaker is not difficult, but making a good loudspeaker for an attractive price is an accomplishment.

Finally, I really appreciate your comments about room placement. We all fiddle with that, but hearing that you worked through it thoroughly with numerous models AND got meaningful results form the changes is encouraging to everyone, and a good reminder that room boundaries play a very important part in the listening experience.

Thanks again for your thoughtful and candid review.


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Re: HSU VTF3 MK2 VS. EP350 Showdown!! Plus a suprise!
#78556 01/24/05 04:48 PM
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In reply to:

All things considered, just too convenient to be an honest review.




I don't agree.

Of course, no one ever knows for sure, but I read it as a subjectiv overview of this persons' informal testing session and opinion. I think if it were a propoganda posting, it would have been much more slanted.

Not to dump on a newbie here, but your comment of "Anyone who has carefully listened to an SVS will know that they are more suitable for big bang movies." tells me that you are biased right up front. Sweeping generalizations that you know how everyone hears things, percieves them, and prefers them raises a big flag with me!

EDITED: Plus, I'll add the fact that Mark has been here for a short while, while you just showed up today.

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Re: HSU VTF3 MK2 VS. EP350 Showdown!! Plus a supri
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Re: HSU VTF3 MK2 VS. EP350 Showdown!! Plus a suprise!
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I stand by my comments 100%. Let's face it, if musical subtlety is your game, then SVS is generally not the best choice. There are dozens of other people who share the same opinion, even many SVS owners. I actually prefer the Axiom sub sound quality overall. I am actually flabbergasted that there is so much talk about non-Axiom subs at the Axiom message boards!

I am also well aware of the lengths that SVS will go to in order to take business away from their competition, and that includes mainly Hsu, but also Axiom and everyone else. The situation is so out of hand that you can't even trust many of the self-appointed forum reviewers these days.

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