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#7989 - 09/12/03 02:24 AM Re: M60 ear fatigue?
dharmatone Offline
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Registered: 03/09/03
Posts: 41
So, i'm way out of my depth here. I'm hoping for plug n' play. Does adding resistors to the 60's make them very good 50's. You suggested to me that for a bright room the 50's might be a better choice. Why, for your ears, don't your 22's need resistors while the 80's do. Gee i wish a 30 day demo on the 60's wasn't a $125+ risk, then i wouldn't have to ask all these unanswerable questions.

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#7990 - 09/12/03 03:24 AM Re: M60 ear fatigue?
littleb Offline
connoisseur

Registered: 08/03/03
Posts: 1235
Loc: Moorhead, Minnesota/US
It sounds like that brightness thing is rearing it's ugly head again. After reading this, I think I made the right decision in getting the m22's vs the m60's. I found the 22's to be a little harsh until I set the treble on the receiver at the straight up or neutral position. Now, it sounds perfect to me. This is the absolute best I could have done for $360. I thought the 60's are identical to the 22's except for the added bass. Is this a misconception on my part?

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#7991 - 09/12/03 08:30 AM Re: M60 ear fatigue?
twodan19 Offline
aficionado

Registered: 12/20/02
Posts: 624
Loc: Pembroke, Massachusetts
if you're wondering about the 60's and brightness, to me it is no longer an issue. when i first hooked up my 60's to a yammi receiver, which are said to be bright, they seemed harsh, and the wow factor was not present. after a few weeks i guess they seemed to soften to me; i have the trebel maxed out on the receiver. when pared with a sub, and set to small, everything sounds terrific. now that is no to say aerosmith sounds laid back. i do turn down the treble when steve screams, i mean sings, some tunes. my wife and i now prefer not to listen to some of our older cds that were recorded poorly. so...go for the 60's crank them until the neighbors complain, and enjoy.
dan

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#7992 - 09/12/03 11:35 AM Re: M60 ear fatigue?
sushi Offline
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Registered: 02/09/03
Posts: 1490
Loc: Dallas, TX
dharmatone,

From what I've read/heard, very few classical music listeners complain about the alleged "brightness" of the Axioms. Although I don't subscribe to the thought that there are different optimal speakers for different genres of music, it is true in my view that serious classical music lovers tend to desire great details in reproduced sound. In addition, good classical music recordings are almost always sonically neutral -- no "hot" voicing seen in some of the mainstream pop/rock recordings. The Axioms are notoriously honest in revealing these hot-EQ'ed recordings, which you don't seem to listen often...

I bet it is unlikely that you will find the M60 (or other Axioms) too bright.

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#7993 - 09/12/03 11:54 AM Re: M60 ear fatigue?
curtis Offline
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Registered: 05/28/03
Posts: 1501
Loc: Manhattan Beach, CA
The bottomline here is to make sure you listen to variety of speakers and know what you like.

I have had the M60 and M22 in my home for listening, and as good as they are, they were fatigueing to me.

To put things in a non-biased perspective, when I had the M60's, I had four people over to specifically listen to them. Two ended up buying Axioms, the other two said they were too bright. Nobody can better tell you how you feel about speakers than yourself.

-curtis



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#7994 - 09/18/03 08:01 PM Re: M60 ear fatigue?
BigWill Offline
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Registered: 05/01/03
Posts: 1951
Loc: Corona, Calif. USA!!!
The M60s are clear and loud at the upper frequencies. Whenever they sound a little too bright just knock back some grog and relax. You don't need no stinkin' resistors, just loosen your orifice and let those crystalline highs sing. After owning Axioms since April, IMO most everything else sounds like shiite.

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#7995 - 09/18/03 08:12 PM Re: M60 ear fatigue?
pmbuko Offline
shareholder in the making

Registered: 04/02/03
Posts: 16280
Loc: Leesburg, Virginia
So how exactly does one loosen those vortex ports?
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#7996 - 09/18/03 10:22 PM Re: M60 ear fatigue?
sushi Offline
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Registered: 02/09/03
Posts: 1490
Loc: Dallas, TX
Peter! Would you shut up???

So, Mark, I have a due question -- how does shiite sound?

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#7997 - 09/18/03 11:53 PM Re: M60 ear fatigue?
pmbuko Offline
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Registered: 04/02/03
Posts: 16280
Loc: Leesburg, Virginia
I have decided to refrain from answering that (to much relief of everyone here).
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"I wish I had documented more…" said nobody on their death bed, ever.

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#7998 - 09/19/03 08:42 PM Re: M60 ear fatigue?
BigWill Offline
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Registered: 05/01/03
Posts: 1951
Loc: Corona, Calif. USA!!!
I reckon I oughta find another way to get around their censor, but I just love saying "SHEEEEEE-ITE".

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