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OT: VOIP
#80971 02/09/05 02:43 AM
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Anyone using Voice over IP (VOIP) for their home phone yet? I am thinking of giving it a try since the price is so much less, but wanted to get some feedback first.

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#80972 02/09/05 03:34 AM
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I have it. It's very quiet. You will like it. Which provider are you considering?


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Re: OT: VOIP
#80973 02/09/05 04:44 AM
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Only advice.....read details concerning E911 services. I'm not sure whether they have handled the problem yet, but up until recently, they could not provide E911 service to customers....at least to the person's local center. So, if you dial 911 and can't talk, you're SOL. I think that some companies may have addressed this, but it's something to check on if you are considering replacing your home phone w/ VoIP services.

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#80974 02/09/05 08:38 AM
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What the heck is Voip?



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#80975 02/09/05 08:41 AM
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Voice Over IP. It's basically a phone that uses the internet instead of the PSTN (publically switched telephone network).

Ok, so it uses the internet AND the PSTN, but only if the person you're calling is using a regular phone, which is pretty much everybody.

I predict in less than 10 years, IP phones will be in every household.

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#80976 02/09/05 12:11 PM
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also consider when power is out no phne either.


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#80977 02/09/05 03:01 PM
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Zarak,
I built a new house over the summer, and took the opportunity to dump my local phone company (Bell). I'm in Northern Ontario, and my ISP (Vianet) offers a VOiP line for $12.50CAD / mth which includes all the bells-and-whistles (voicemail, call waiting, call display, call conferencing etc.), and long distance of 5c / min anywhere in North America, anytime. A comparable service from Bell would run ~ $40CAD, therefore the economic benefit is a no-brainer.
I’ll break this up into a pros/cons list to avoid rambling on for 3 pages. Note, I’ll use the benefits as they applied to me, and all costs are in CAD$.
Pros:
- Cost savings of > $300 per year (I’m quite frugal, so this was enough for me!)
- Portability: My wife and I spent a week in Mexico in December, and we brought our ATA (analogue telephone adapter) and a phone with us. This allowed us to plug the ATA into a high-speed internet port, and we could keep in touch with family, mainly our daughter, without incurring any cost. Any calls to/from your ‘home area-code’, regardless of where in the world you’re connected, are considered a local call. We actually made a few dollars by letting others at the resort use our phone to call home since my long distance rate of 5c/min was substantially cheaper than the resort.
- Number porting: I was able to keep my old number that I’ve had for years. This would not have been possible had I stayed with Bell since I was moving across town.
Cons: (I’ll also list how I overcame them)
- Potentially 911, although I think most service providers have fixed this. The only thing to remember, is if you do travel with the ATA, dialing 911 will send emergency personnel to the registered address. My service provider requires I call them when I travel with the ATA, and they de-activate my 911 service.
- Power outage: If you loose power to your cable modem and ATA, you are without telephone service. This was not really a big issue for me, since I have a cell phone for backup and power outages in my area are quite uncommon. I also purchased a small UPS that supplies plenty of power to keep my modem, router and ATA running during short interruptions.
- Connection to existing phone distribution system in your home. This was a non-issue for me, since I pre-planned and wired my house during construction to allow for VoiP. This is by no means insurmountable, but you will have to put some thought into it. Requirements are: Coax from ISP to cable modem, cable modem to router, router to ATA, ATA to house phone distribution. Note, you can also connect the cable modem directly to the ATA, then ATA to router.
- QOS (Quality of Service): This is the biggest challenge in my opinion, and is dependant on a few things. The 2 most important variables are the bandwidth from your ISP, and your internet usage. My personal situation was such that if I was downloading something, the voice-quality was choppy at best. Remember, I’m not in a telecommunications-hub, therefore my bandwidth is not the greatest. There are a few ways to deal with this. First, many of the new ATAs have QOS built-in, and can be configured to prioritize voice over data. Also, with the advancement of VoiP, many new routers on the market offer QOS. I went the Linux route, and configured my Linux firewall to prioritize voice, and this corrected the issue to an acceptable point. There are still times when the voice is a bit choppy, mainly between 3-5pm when kids are getting home from school and internet traffic in general increases. It’s not enough to cause a problem for me, and every time I hear it drop a bit, I simply think of the money I’m saving . Your method of resolving the QOS issue is up to you, but it’s really not that difficult.
- ISP caps: Depending on your usage and account type, you may have to upgrade to an 'unlimited'. If you have a capped account, and you exceed your download/upload limit you'll be 'up-the-creek' with your phone.

All-in-all, my suggestion to anyone wanting to switch to VoiP is to test it first. Ask your ISP to lend you an ATA to test for 1-2 months and see if it works for you. The largest potential draw-back in my mind is the voice-quality. If you can solve this, it becomes smooth sailing, and is a great way to use advancements in technology to save a few bucks. I also echo others in saying VoiP will take over in the next 5-10 years. Well, so much for doing pros/cons to keep it short!


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#80978 02/09/05 04:18 PM
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Excellent post! I also like the way you worked through the issues you would face.

I spent 2004 designing VoIP installations for customers - mostly multi location enterprises - with the engineering firm I worked for. I have one at home, and can atest to the fact that the flexibility is tremendous. If you can get the service, it works well. Combined with a wireless connection, laptop, and typical geek type tools, you are truly "always connected"

I am currently the IT Manager for a large call centre, and our agents are all VoIP.

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#80979 02/09/05 04:38 PM
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Have they solved the use of fax/modems on a VoIP line?

I tried VoicePulse for a month.....didn't like it. My understanding is that Vonage is better.

The potential is great...just not sure they have ironed everything out for residential use.

If I were setting up a business/office from scratch, I would definitely plan on using VoIP for the internal phone system, but the line out would be a traditional voice line.

Re: OT: VOIP
#80980 02/09/05 05:09 PM
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Vonage is the company I was looking at. $15 a month for up to 500 minutes. If we lose power, I'll just use the cell.

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