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#90195 - 04/12/05 04:24 PM Re: OT: Car Buying
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Registered: 12/15/03
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The SRT versions of the 300, the Magnum AND the new Charger are due out this year ... and all three should be winners.

HERE is something that will likely amaze a few people ... The Ford 500 is a larger car than is the Chrysler 300 !
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#90196 - 04/12/05 04:27 PM Re: OT: Car Buying
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Registered: 12/30/03
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Loc: Cleveland, Ohio
No surprise to me. The first thing that struck me about it, when I pulled up behind one at a traffic light, was how high it sat, and how large it seemed. A lot to like about that car.
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#90197 - 04/12/05 04:30 PM Re: OT: Car Buying
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What I cannot fathom is how Ford could have that tremendous platform and NOT have a Luxury version of it under the Lincoln banner ... With 203 Horsepower, AWD, and the CVT, it is a solid performer ... Give it the 313 HP engine the Volvo XC-90 has (it is the Volvo SUV built on the same platform), and drop in a Lincoln-Level interior, and for under $40k, NOTHING would touch it ...
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#90198 - 04/12/05 05:03 PM Re: OT: Car Buying
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Registered: 01/21/04
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but, is there a market for a $40K american sports sedan? your average joe blow looking for a regular everyday driver will most likely be looking at the large scale honda's or toyota's at $10K less, and they know they will last for 100K or 200K miles. and, for someone that DOES have $40K to spend on a sports sedan, they arent gonna want to spend it on an american car.. these are just my opinions.

of course, i am also the kind of guy that drives cars literally, til the wheels fall off. i think it is actually plausable to carry a 4-5 year note, pay it off, and still drive it for 3-4 more years. i get so frustrated with the mentality that you have to trade up and get a new car every 2-3 years. i think its that exact mentality by the consumer that has allowed the car manufacturers to make more and more inferior cars.

again, just my opinions.

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#90199 - 04/12/05 05:42 PM Re: OT: Car Buying
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Registered: 05/25/03
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Loc: Menlo Park, CA
I agree w/ John. Most people won't spend the cash for an American luxury sedan, refer to Olds, Buick, Caddy de Ville/Sevill/etc., as a case in point.

There may be a spot for the 500 a la Impala SS of a few years back. That still seems to have a strong following, until the body changed. The Taurus SHO was a valiant attempt (thought the Fiesta Shogun was more impressive). But for me to spend that kind of cash, I'd go Japanese or German.

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#90200 - 04/12/05 05:53 PM Re: OT: Car Buying
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Guys ... I will tell Cadillac, who is back ordered on the new STS ($45,000 to $65,000) and the CTS is flying off lots ($38,000 to $52,000) that people are not REALLY buying their cars ... And I Will also have Chrysler dump the 300 while we are at it ...

YES, people will spend $40,000 for a full size, quality, AWD domestic sedan. Of course, if someone can point me to the full size Import AWD luxury sedan for $40,000, I will buy it today ...
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#90201 - 04/12/05 06:11 PM Re: OT: Car Buying
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The SHO was impressive until they changed the bodystyle and dropped in a 236 HP V8. 236 HP? That's not exactly Super High Output.
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#90202 - 04/12/05 06:15 PM Re: OT: Car Buying
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Registered: 04/01/03
Posts: 5214
Loc: Los Angeles
If the Chrysler 300 were around when I bought my Audi I certainly would have given it a test drive. Pretty cool looking car. Though bigger than I tend to like.


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#90203 - 04/12/05 06:24 PM Re: OT: Car Buying
RickF Offline
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Registered: 02/26/05
Posts: 5210
Loc: Vero Beach, Florida
Wife and I test drove a Magnum a while back, I thought it was slick but she didn't care much for it. She did like the 300 and I didn't like it so much...reminds me of a 'gangster' car.
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#90204 - 04/12/05 06:29 PM Re: OT: Car Buying
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Well ... On The Sopranos, The Lincoln Navigator was the original gangster choice ... then the Escalade ... If the 300 is there for next season, you will have your answer...
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