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#90205 - 04/12/05 06:29 PM Re: OT: Car Buying
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Registered: 04/01/03
Posts: 5214
Loc: Los Angeles
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She did like the 300 and I didn't like it so much...reminds me of a 'gangster' car.



Exactly. That's what's so cool about it. Like the Cord's of the 1930's.


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#90206 - 04/12/05 06:37 PM Re: OT: Car Buying
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Registered: 05/25/03
Posts: 2181
Loc: Menlo Park, CA
You can probably fit more bodies in the back of a Magnum than a 300 though...

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#90207 - 04/12/05 07:31 PM Re: OT: Car Buying
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Registered: 08/03/03
Posts: 1235
Loc: Moorhead, Minnesota/US
Living in Minnesota, which is renowned for months of snow and ice and really hazardous drivers, I long ago learned the lesson that to invest $30,000 in 4 wheels is a bad idea and a real waste of money. So, I haven't purchased a car from a dealer for a long, long time. If I need wheels, I simply scour the classifieds until I find a private owner selling something I could live with, until some nut on ice smashes into it.

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#90208 - 04/12/05 11:31 PM Re: OT: Car Buying
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Registered: 01/03/05
Posts: 365
Loc: Charlottesville, Virginia
"...STS ($45,000 to $65,000) and the CTS is flying off lots ($38,000 to $52,000) that people are not REALLY buying their cars "

You know, I had not driven an American car in years, but when we were in Florida a couple of months ago we were upgraded to one of the Cadillac Devilles by a swell guy at the rental counter just because we had flown a certain airline.
It impressed the hell out of me. I had the time of my life driving that beast around Florida for a week. Fast, Quite, Comfortable, handled great for it's size, great stereo. I was shocked.
Does not surprise me at all that they are flying off of the lots.
As for the prettiest new American car, I have to vote for the Chrysler Crossfire. I think that one is just stunning.


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#90209 - 04/13/05 12:22 AM Re: OT: Car Buying
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Registered: 05/25/03
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Investment-wise, cars are a horrible deal, unless you get a truly special car, like a Viper Coupe, Ford GT, Shelby Mustang etc. No cars like that anymore, last I can remember was the ZR-1.

I agree w/ the used route. Last car I bought 3 years ago was a 1999 BMW 528i wagon. Bought it from a fleet lease sale thru a broker. 14500 miles and got it for $30K, local dealers had 'em for no less than $42K. I'm only going new because the newer Pilots have a bigger engine. After having my V8 explorer and high torque BMW, I REALLY don't want a weak engine. Plus my wife wants 20+ MPH. Too bad the hybrid Yukon isn't ready yet.

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#90210 - 04/13/05 12:38 AM Re: OT: Car Buying
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The reason we're thinking about buying new next time is that we got completely shafted on our used car purchase, and we really really want a warranty. Hint: never buy a Volvo from a Honda dealer. Grr....
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#90211 - 04/13/05 01:11 AM Re: OT: Car Buying
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Registered: 05/25/03
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Loc: Menlo Park, CA
I lucked out because my used car still had a warranty.

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#90212 - 04/13/05 01:21 AM Re: OT: Car Buying
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Yup, new or certified pre-owned is the only way I'm going next time. BTW, we got ours through Carfax, and looking at my repair bills, I can see exactly how much good that did.
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#90213 - 04/13/05 04:30 AM Re: OT: Car Buying
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Loc: Leesburg, Virginia
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Plus my wife wants 20+ MPH


Hell, just get her an old 10-speed from the classifieds....
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#90214 - 04/13/05 07:17 AM Re: OT: Car Buying
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Registered: 12/15/03
Posts: 1306
One of the dilemmas in the car market IS the gas milage ... the 500 I am currently driving would have been considered a sports sedan 10 years ago. It runs 0-60 in 8 seconds flat ... seats five 6 foot tall men easily (I am 6 feet, 3 inches, and am comfortable in the back seat with the front seat in my normal driving position. I cannot do that in Accord, BMW 3 or 5 series, Camry or Avalan ... Etc...), and only lacks a nav system versus a loaded Audi A-60. It also has almost 20% more interior room than the Audi ...

The 500 is ALSO AVERAGING 24.3 MPG over the first 10,000 miles. I know of no other car which can claim all this for under $30K ...

One would THINK this level of perfomance, Gas mileage and SUV replacing utility would be raved about ... For instance, My Lincoln Aviator had a higher Percentage of highway driving, cost $48,000, had less usable space, and got 13.9 MPG ... and my 2001 BMW 325 was about the same 0-60, was much smaller, 2WD ... and $38,000...

But my SUV buddies think I am suffering without one ...

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