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#90175 - 04/12/05 01:53 PM OT: Car Buying
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Registered: 05/25/03
Posts: 2181
Loc: Menlo Park, CA
I'm looking to buy a new car and I'm trying to find websites that list invoice prices. Ideally, I'd also like to find the pricing of option packages too. I found a similar site for Ford years ago, looking for similar w/ Honda.

Thanks!

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#90176 - 04/12/05 01:56 PM Re: OT: Car Buying
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Registered: 03/07/05
Posts: 7395
Loc: Glendale, Arizona
Try Edmunds.com, and/or Carsdirect.com.
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#90177 - 04/12/05 02:01 PM Re: OT: Car Buying
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Registered: 04/01/03
Posts: 5214
Loc: Los Angeles
I bought (leased) my Audio with Carsdirect.com and it was by far the best car buying experience of my life. I got the best price, and no hassles. They told me the price, I shopped that price around to five local dealers, and not one of them would even match it. Said a-ok to the carsdirect salesperson via phone, and then headed to a local dealer for pickup. Signed my name about five times and drove off the lot with the exact car I wanted. Couldn't be happier.


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#90178 - 04/12/05 02:05 PM Re: OT: Car Buying
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Registered: 05/25/03
Posts: 2181
Loc: Menlo Park, CA
Thanks guys. That's EXACTLY how I want to do it.

I did a similar thing before. Figured out how much a new Explorer would cost w/ my specific package. Then I called about 5 dealers and told them what I wanted. Told them to give me the best price they could, no haggling at all. I would immediately drive down w/ a checkbook and pay it ASAP w/ the best price. Worked for me, but carsdirect seems a little easier.

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#90179 - 04/12/05 02:14 PM Re: OT: Car Buying
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Registered: 03/07/05
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Me too. I loved the no-hassle aspect of it. I didn't want to have to go through endless amounts of haggling with dealers. Although some people live for that kind of thing, not me. Carsdirect made it too easy. Made me start to wonder about it, but it couldn't have been easier.
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#90180 - 04/12/05 02:34 PM Re: OT: Car Buying
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Registered: 05/25/03
Posts: 2181
Loc: Menlo Park, CA
Yeah, I think this is part of the list of the most horrible experiences you have to deal w/ in life.

1) Dentist
2) Doctor's office for the oh so special exam
3) Public speaking
4) Buying a car

I think nothing makes me more mad faster than the statement, "Let me go in the back and ask my manager..." Perhaps those are up there with those dreadful words from your significant other, "We need to talk."

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#90181 - 04/12/05 02:41 PM Re: OT: Car Buying
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Registered: 04/01/03
Posts: 5214
Loc: Los Angeles
In reply to:

Perhaps those are up there with those dreadful words from your significant other, "We need to talk."




Oh no...those four words are definately at the top of the list.

I'm afraid if I go ahead and purchase that Denon 2900 I'll hear them. That's pretty much the only thing stopping me.


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#90182 - 04/12/05 02:49 PM Re: OT: Car Buying
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Registered: 12/15/03
Posts: 1306
Guys, As someone who at one time sold cars, and who is a silent partner in three dealerships, I can tell you the following as facts:

1. If you quote a price to someone on the phone, less than 1 % will come in and buy.

2. If you refuse to quote the price, and rather set an appointment with the consumer, 50% will come in and 22% will come in and buy.

3. The average consumer could not be more apathetic about service DURING the sale process. AFTER the sale, that same consumer will expect the dealer he did NOT purchase from to fix his car.

Personally, as a a businessman, I would LOVE to deal with 10,000 people per month who would call me, tell me the Carsdirect.com price, and come in without haggling ... however, it really is less than 1% of the buyers ...

Hopefully, this (what I just typed) will be interesting ...


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#90183 - 04/12/05 02:53 PM Re: OT: Car Buying
RickF Offline
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Registered: 02/26/05
Posts: 5210
Loc: Vero Beach, Florida
In reply to:

I think nothing makes me more mad faster than the statement, "Let me go in the back and ask my manager..." Perhaps those are up there with those dreadful words from your significant other, "We need to talk."




I'm with you there brother, I hate that..and let them know it up front. Whenever offered a seat in that person's office I promptly refuse, look at my watch and tell 'em right away that we've got 10 minutes and time is wasting. That usually gets things in order right away.

Whenever it come to me and car salespeople, I turn into a completey different animal because I really don't care to be there to begin with.


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#90184 - 04/12/05 02:59 PM Re: OT: Car Buying
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Registered: 05/25/03
Posts: 2181
Loc: Menlo Park, CA
Craig
Interesting feedback.

Perhaps the phone quote percentage is small because people don't think it works. But I know it does. Plus I think many people think they can negotiate a better deal in person and are willing to do that. Me, I'd rather pay NOT to deal w/ the hassle and just know that I'm treated fairly.

I also see the problem w/ after purchase servicing. But I think the problem there is the vast difference in quality between service centers. Unfortunately, if you have a great salesman and great sales experience, what if you have a bad service center experience? I've run into that, so now I go to my local shop who's fair and fast. Granted. it's for non-warranty service.

BTW, I'm all for the great salesguy. I'm in tech sales and I understand what goes on behind the scenes. If a salesman goes out of his way to show me he's good at what he does, knows his product and knows how to take care of me, he'll get my sale, even if his price is slightly higher.

I got online quotes already, and my first shot is going to the dealer that showed me the first car a few weeks ago and gave a great sales pitch and was intelligent. People like that deserve the sale.

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