Axiom Home Page Forums General Discussion Home Theater Experience with the MA Center? Halo A23 amp?

My local Good Guys is going through some remodeling and has all their demo units priced very, very low.
Anybody seen the Halo A23 lower than $500?
How about the MA Silver center? It seemed a touch sibilant - anybody else hear that?
Thanks in advance - and please don't call me a c*nt.

BW2, i will call you a "cent" if i want to, but i prefer to call you a dollar.

I have not heard the Silver centres oddly enough, so i cannot say, but i have looked around for Halo A23s before and no, i have never come across one even used that cheap.
I think the cheapest i found on Audiogon was $650 or so, however an older unit now might go for a bit less.
In the same price range you could look for both Anthem and Odyssey Stratos products. Neither of them run nearly as hot and the Anthem has great power specs. Spiff and mwc can attest to the functionality of the Odyssey amps.

Odyssey also has a Khartago amp. Similar to the Stratos with slightly less power and a less ornate chasis. I'm expecting mine in a couple of weeks. Klaus is great to deal with and understands what customer service is all about. Another "Axiom class" company.

Tharkun mentioned in a thread in the last couple of days to watch out for Good Guys and Halo stuff

here it is

My post was to say don't let then take a deposit and wait for them to order units. Also seems some GG stores are stating they can no longer order Paraound products. As for buying a demo Halo from them, the 5/10 year warranty will still be serviced by Parasound, and begins from date of sale. This is the info I received well talking to Parasound in SF directly, so if one wants to save a few bucks and buy a demo, it has the same warranty as new.

Thanks, folks. So... good deal or not on the A23, there are still options that might be as good for similar $.
Are your Halos running very hot, Tharkun? (At sane listening levels, that is).
And the Silver center??? I'm happy with the VP150, but my anality is making me think matching the fronts will create a more seamless presentation. OTOH, the VP150 is excellent, especially intelligible with voices, and is paid for.
Nevermind.

Well I can only speak for my expieriance about Halos running hot, but with the A51/A21 that I audtiioned at Good Guys for over two hours and high volume levels, they did not run hot. They were in a entertainment style cabinet, front/back open, and 8 - 10 inches of clearance between units.

As all can see from my web pictures, my four A21s have ample clearance, and even at what most seem are high volume levels, none run any where near HOT. The one that is doing most of the work driving the front 80s, never gets to a temp that one can not place a hand on it, what I would call warm, yes, hot, not at all. Well having had the A51 here, it did not run hot either.


When we set the BFD up, Lee had a temp gun and checked the amp temps, but I do not remember what they were, perhaps he, Peter, or Adam will be of help on that.

My best friend and fellow audio fanatic has a 5 channel Halo Parasound amp and it runs HOT. He had a huge ATI amp which he got rid of for the Halo. The ATI ran cool.

Just out of curiosity, what would be considered hot on an amp? Seems like I've heard conflicting thoughts, heat doesn't matter vs heat hurts 'em...is there a baseline or point of measurement as a start?

I'd say the threshhold between warm and hot is found by using your hand. If you can comfortably keep your hand on the hottest part of the amp, then it's warm. If it feels like it'll burn you, that's hot.