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Re: QS8s Ordered/ Now For The Separates
#99810 06/29/05 03:49 AM
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I interpreted the post as Ron saying that the woofer was better on the PC+...

As far as I know the amplifier is similar other than the power rating -- 525 vs. 300 watts RMS.


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Re: QS8s Ordered/ Now For The Separates
#99811 06/29/05 11:22 AM
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Could be, but I would be very interested in what Ron told Jon the specific differences were.

Just for the heck of it, I took my tape measure out last night and measured the M80s. Yes, I know I could have read the spec on the product page, but I wanted to see how "large" a few other things were. The PC- 39 inches tall matches the height of the M80s quite well. Another 7" is noticible.


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Rat, Ron spoke in great detail mostly about drivers/subs/sizes. When I got the SS package, the Ultra drivers were damaged. This had NOTHING to do with SVS, I got them used, and covered that ordeal, SVS was very supportive in my problem that was not their doing of any sorts. Once I removed one, I could not believe the (physical) difference compared to the PC+ driver. (I stil had the 39 PC+) I mean the weight and mass, and structure are very different. It had me quesioning the PC+ driver. Ron stated the Ultra driver was "better" but very comparable in performance. It was more a design theory, and the PC+ is a "bullit proof wonderful driver" When I initally gave them my room set up, before I even considered the SS package, I was leaning to a single ultra, I wanted the "best" they felt the PC+ was better suited for me performance to dollar. The the PCi sub/driver was no sloch (they are not going to rip on their own stuff) And I think it's a good sub. But the PC+ was a different sub for the most part, (look at the tri porting and larger amp) and the ultra was a "bit of a performance upgrade" had the TC works driver, Unless I really-really drove the PC+ hard they would be similar in performance. I would again take the few extra bucks the 39 saves over the 46, and get the better, but not the best driver. The 39 PC+ better porting design, better driver, bigger amp, not much more) The ultra is incidently a 39 version NOT the 46 if that says anything. You still have a monster sub, a bit more musical and less obtrusive the the 46. When I got the SS package it was due to a move and a new 24x22 room with 18 paek cielings. Even then SVS said the Ultra would not dominate the PC+s, that there would be little differnce. But my decession was also LARGLY based on the maple (which is gorgeous) blend with the room, and WAF acceptence. So by small means was perfromance a factor in the SS over 39s. As far as amps, well 525 is MORE than 325, so that can't be bad either LOL> Best speak to them, They are great to deal with, much like Axiom, they will not upsell you just to have you spend more$$$$ if not needed.

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Re: QS8s Ordered/ Now For The Separates
#99813 06/30/05 02:36 AM
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Thanks Jon!!!!

I went to the SVS website and took a harder look at the differences between the PCi and PC Plus. You are so right that there are some major differences other than the power amp. Being able to change that tuned port is an interesting feature, but I don't know that I would do that, at least for a while.

I think that the two of you have convinced me to go with the 20-39 PC Plus. I haven't totally made up my mind, but I sure am leaning that way!!!!


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#99814 06/30/05 05:05 AM
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Rat,

That's the same sub I recommended to my son in ABQ.

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Bug: I guess that GREAT minds think alike! LOL!!!

I tried expanding the picture of the control panel so that I could see all the connections, but the resolution wasn't very good. Do you need a "Y" connector, double male, to feed two inputs from your subwoofer receiver output? I couldn't really tell.


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I checked the 1090 manual. You have a sub preout on back of receiver (lower left center). Your preout from receiver to line in on sub is all you need (RCA to RCA). You should only need a Y if your running dual subs.

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Thanks Bug.

I am currently using that subwoofer pre output to "drive" the subwoofer that I borrowed from my son. I thought that maybe there was a right/ left input to the SVS such that I would have to use a "Y" connector.

I think that I will go to the SVS website and see if their manual is posted.


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#99818 06/30/05 06:53 PM
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No "Y" needed unless you are running duals as stated before. (1) rca to either left or right input on the sub. Makes no difference in sound, That is expalined in the SVS manual. I'll send you a high quaility pic od the SVS 39 PC+ panel off mine if you want? And next to M-60s (sorry no 80s but - what 2") PM me with an email if you want it. BTW my new Sunfire Grand Thheater III has 4 sub outputs, are they telling me 2 is not enough?? Tempting, my neighbors already hate me!!


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#99819 06/30/05 07:17 PM
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Thanks Jon!

It is not an issue any more because I was able to download a copy of the manual and read it.


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