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Help!! I have a sudden "mystery" hum from my EP500
#133222 03/24/06 06:41 PM
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Been enjoying my EP500 for a year now w/no issues. All of a sudden when I turn it on now, I get a very low level faint hum. When I turn the Yamaha Receiver on the hum intensifies quite a bit. I know this sounds like a ground loop, but NOTHING has changed w/my equipment and all connections seem firm? When I unplug the RCA cable from the receiver to the sub, but leave the power on the sub, the hum completely disappears? What has happened?

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#133223 03/24/06 08:55 PM
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Do you have a dog or a cat that might have been chewing on the cable?

Try a different cable and see what happens.


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darthkringle,

If the hum disappears from the EP500 when you unplug the coaxial sub cable, then there is nothing wrong with the EP500. Look on the back of the 500 for a Ground Screw. If you remove that, it may help.

Otherwise, you might have to insert a ground-lift transformer on your cable-TV input. Try disconnecting your cable or video antenna or satellite feed and see if the hum disappears. If it does, then that's the source of the ground loop.

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#133225 03/27/06 03:15 AM
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Alan- Thanks as always. Removing the Ground Screw did in fact help. Any ideas on why I would suddenly have a ground loop issue after a year and my equipment has not changed? Thanks!!


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#133226 03/27/06 03:42 PM
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that is a good question, I was going to mention the screw also as it is mentioned in the pamphlet that comes with the 500/600.

Do you have a surge/line conditioner in your setup, this may help.

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#133227 03/27/06 04:42 PM
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Alan,

What does this screw do? Seperate the amp from the mains ground? Does that make it 'float' and ground via the RCA to the AVR? I have to look - is there a screw on the 350?

This past weekend I had a hum problem with my EP350. I heard it regardless of whether the sub was on or not, and unplugging the RCA OR the power from the wall eliminated it. What I ended up doing was running an extension cord from the sub to the same surge suppressor/power strip my AVR is plugged in to. That fixed it, and i suspect the power strip isolated ground in some way. Now everything is plugged into the same strip.

-Brian


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#133228 03/27/06 05:42 PM
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n8wrl,

Something like you describe. Without asking Tom, our engineer, I'm not sure what it exactly does, but it does not endanger anyone in terms of electrical shock (like putting a "cheater" on a 3-way plug does). I don't think there is a ground-lift screw on the 350.

Glad you solved your problem.

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#133229 03/27/06 05:46 PM
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darth,

Good. No idea why you suddenly got a ground-loop unless something subtle changed in your system. Perhaps you connected some video-related device or disconnected an aging VCR or something like that. Even a tiny shift in the ground potential will cause a hum.

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#133230 03/28/06 12:50 AM
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Hi. I had a bad ground loop hum. Removing the "screw" didn't help much. I ended up buying a SUB1RR from Jenson to isolate the sub from the receiver. The SUB1RR was expensive, about $100US, but it got rid of the hum. I subsequently purchased a surge protector. It seems that the surge protector by itself also removes the hum.
Too bad I wasted the $100.



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#133231 03/28/06 01:27 PM
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Yes - this is a common problem on computer sound cards as well. A simple 1:1 isolation transformer on the audio lines is all you really need - that was going to be my next try if the extension cord didn't fix it.

-Brian


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