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M60, M80, Studio 100, 1909, 2808 Shootout ? ? ?
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My F.O. order for M60's, M80's and 4-QS8's should arrive about the first week of April. PM'ing with Andy (Murph) on the results of his M60/Paradigm Studio 100 comparison, he suggested I try to borrow a pair of of Studio 100's to do a three way comparison to report back here. While that IS a great idea, I am far from an audio file with a critical listening ear, or vocabulary, to do this possible opportunity anywhere near the justice it would be due. Should we be able to gather some somewhat more qualified ears, I'd just HAVE to succumb to my upgrade-itis and get a 2808 to replace my 1909. Only fair thing to do, right? (work with me here people ;o)

So this is an invitation to Adam (AdamP88) and Ken (kcarlile). If anyone else lives in the San Francisco Bay Area (or knows a good pair of ears that does!), let me know if you/they would be interested or able to attend this if we did it in April (my 30 day Axiom window, as one pair will go back)

IF I can get some better ears than mine interested, THEN I will ask my local Paradigm dealer if I can borrow a pair of floor demo 100's for a day. He is a nice guy. I and my buddy both bought used Servo15 subs from him and I have been to his shop several times, so he may go for it. Especially if he knows others (possible customers? ;o) will be involved.

I know Ken travels a lot and has a rather important 'bundle' due from the stork in April, but it is worth a try. :o) So Adam, Ken, others... whadayathink? \:\)


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Re: M60, M80, Studio 100, 1909, 2808 Shootout ? ? ?
davekro #251073 03/10/09 02:04 PM
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Sounds like fun to me, but of course my schedule is somewhat dependent on the will of others...I'll have to let you know.


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Ken.C #251077 03/10/09 02:18 PM
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Dave, all you have to say is....

"Friends, Axiomites, and Audio-piles...lend me your ears!"


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Ken.C #251086 03/10/09 03:18 PM
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 Originally Posted By: kcarlile
Sounds like fun to me, but of course my schedule is somewhat dependent on the will of others...I'll have to let you know.

Ken, when it gets closer, if you think there might be a Saturday or Sunday in April that has a good chance to work for you, that could be the date we shoot for, since you likely have the most restricted availabilty. We're probably looking at April 18/19 or 25/26, unless anyone has any pull with the queue at Axiom. ;\)

Peter, are you due for an Adam/Ken visit? \:\)


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Adrian #251087 03/10/09 03:19 PM
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 Originally Posted By: Adrian
Dave, all you have to say is....

"Friends, Axiomites, and Audio-piles...lend me your ears!"


See, I told you I needed experienced help in planning this event!
Thanks Adrian.


Dave

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Re: M60, M80, Studio 100, 1909, 2808 Shootout ? ? ?
davekro #251092 03/10/09 03:35 PM
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While I won't make the flight, it would be interesting if you let everyone know the material you are going to use. Might help generate some notes to look for in songs and movies that help differentiate subjects in what should be a pretty close test.


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Zimm #251157 03/10/09 07:40 PM
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If you can swing this comparison/audition, Dave, I know we'd all be extremely interested in the results, knowing the similarities between the Ax's and 'digms. As Charles mentioned, let us know what music you'll use too as a point of reference for us as well...don't worry about 'not being an audiophile' either, many of the rest of us have 'ears in training', it doesn't mean you don't know what sounds good, just perhaps how you convey the information to others.


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Adrian #251158 03/10/09 08:05 PM
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Sounds like alot of fun Dave, just remember to level each speaker and try to use the same positioning for each, or nearly the same. Take notes as to what each speaker brings to the experience and post your thoughts here, very simple really.


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Re: M60, M80, Studio 100, 1909, 2808 Shootout ? ? ?
jakewash #251170 03/10/09 10:46 PM
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As you will have both you might also want to try an M60 as a center channel (regardless of the aesthetics) just to hear a tower center (and return shipping on just one speaker would be cheaper \:D ) .


(Sorry I don't remember if this was dealt with on another thread, but I've been away for awhile.)



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Re: M60, M80, Studio 100, 1909, 2808 Shootout ? ? ?
doormat #251172 03/10/09 11:05 PM
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Just let me know when in April, and I'll definitely try and be there, Dave. \:\)

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