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Basic Denon Setup Question.
#136182 04/20/06 01:32 AM
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I have a Denon AVR-886S.

I ran the Auto Setup with the mic today. Im a little confused about the "Room EQ" function though.

When im comparing the different EQ curves such as, Flat, Normal, Front, Manual, and off, the "off" setting sounds best. Am I doing something wrong here? Should "Room EQ" even be used during movies and such or is this just a music function?

Thanks for the help.

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#136183 04/20/06 02:10 AM
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Many of us that have Denon's keep the EQ off, sounds better that way.


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#136184 04/20/06 02:42 AM
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I went through a similar thing with the setup of my Onkyo a month or so ago.

Alan suggested that I turn the equalization off and that is exactly what I did.

For what it is worth.


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Yes, I agree. When I first got my Denon 2805 I ran the setup and left the RoomEQ on Normal. After a few days, I found the midrange frequencies to be to much. I have not used the roomeq stuff since. Alan from Axiom is a firm believer that good speakers like Axioms will sound worse with EQ turned on, and does not recommend the feature.

The setup does a pretty good job with delay(distance) and dB levels. I always follow up with my SPL meter to confirm things, but the auto setup does a good job. Also, don't be alarmed if the auto setup puts your sub a lot farther than the actual physical measurment. This is normal because of the internal circuitry.




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#136186 04/20/06 03:17 PM
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Ok, thanks guys. I will leave it off.

One thing that I noticed with auto setup is that it dosent seem to raise the center channel db level high enough. im sure it makes it even with the other speakers but when people are talking in a movie or a show, the voice is a bit to low. I always have to turn my center up by about 2 db above the towers. Do you guys do this also? Thanks

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#136187 04/20/06 03:19 PM
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I haven't had that problem with my center and my 80's, is your center placed at ear level or pointed there?


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#136188 04/20/06 03:31 PM
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Yes, many of us do that exact same thing. I usually bump my CC up by 1.5 to 2 dB's over the mains. I'm not sure if it is related to my 60's being 8ohm and the VP150 being 6ohms? If I don't people are always saying, what did that actor/actress say? And if you turn up the main volume to hear the center, then the other speakers are to loud. At least that is my situation.


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#136189 04/20/06 04:12 PM
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HomeDad, yes they are. Directly at ear level.

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#136190 04/20/06 04:18 PM
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Sirquack, thats exactly what happens to me. During regular TV its fine. The problem is when there is a loud action movie playing and there is voice dialog while there is things blowing up and so on. The M60's kinda over power the center. Thus, I have to turn the center up a bit.

I love my Axioms but if I could wish for one thing it would be a center that is more powerful. If I could I would use 1 more M60 as the center but that would block my TV and from what I have read, turning the 60 on its side for a center would be a mistake.

Is there a center out there that is more powerful then the VP150 but will still match well with the M60's? Thanks

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I'm not sure that power is a problem, I think the VP100 and VP150 are fine in that category. I'm not as technical when it comes to speaker design, but it has to have something to do with the design of the cabinet and/or the drivers specs. I thought the VP150 used the same type drivers as found in the 60's for the tweeters/woofers?

To me it is very obvious when I run the Test Tones, the pink noise sounds different coming from the 60's versus the 150 versus the Qs8's.


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