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Posted By: nickbuol Retro Cars - 09/18/06 03:03 PM
Seems like everyone is getting into the retro car look. I know that this was discussed a little while back with a post about the upcoming Transformers flick.

Anyway, I have seen little models of another "retro" car for a few months now, but I finally found a photo of the actual car so I thought I would post it.

2006 Lamborghini Miura


Posted By: nickbuol Re: Retro Cars - 09/18/06 03:07 PM
I found a link to a write up about some of the recent "retro" offerings and shows photos of now vs. then.

Retro Article

It doesn't include future models or complete concepts, but I figured that it would eliminate a lot of vehicles.
Posted By: rgold1963 Re: Retro Cars - 09/18/06 03:31 PM
Something tells me after just buying my new audio system that the wife isn't going to let me break into the savings account for that Miura.
Posted By: oldskoolboarder Re: Retro Cars - 09/18/06 10:45 PM
Very nice Miura.

I have to admit, I'm part of the neo retro mix. Just got a 2007 FJ Cruiser. LOVE it.


Posted By: Ken.C Re: Retro Cars - 09/18/06 10:49 PM
What always amazes me about these articles is that they act like it's a new trend. I mean, come on, the Beetle's been around for about a decade now. And Ford's been trying (generally poorly) to capitalize on it for a long time, too. Remember when the 4th gen Mustangs were supposed to be retro?
Posted By: bugbitten Re: Retro Cars - 09/18/06 11:28 PM
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Just got a 2007 FJ Cruiser. LOVE it.





I think I hurt my eyes!
Posted By: St_PatGuy Re: Retro Cars - 09/19/06 01:09 AM
I like those FJ Cruisers, Cesar. I think we may be in the minority, though. Good or bad, the car exhibits a lot of character IMO--something most new cars lack. Take this from the guy who used to drive a beat up old VW. Talk about character. . .
Posted By: nickbuol Re: Retro Cars - 09/19/06 01:17 AM
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What always amazes me about these articles is that they act like it's a new trend. I mean, come on, the Beetle's been around for about a decade now. And Ford's been trying (generally poorly) to capitalize on it for a long time, too. Remember when the 4th gen Mustangs were supposed to be retro?




You are correct. Retro is nothing new, but before it was one vehicle every several years from different companies, but now there is a huge push at Dodge/Chrysler in particular, and others are offering more "retro" styles as well. There has definately been an increase in new model styles reflecting this trend over jsut the past couple of model years.

Hey, maybe if I keep my 1999 Ford Contour Sport (don't laugh) another 25 years, it will be the design of a "retro" model in 2041.... Naaa, probably not...
Posted By: Ken.C Re: Retro Cars - 09/19/06 02:48 AM
Sorry, gotta laugh.

Of course, I have a Volvo 850 Turbo Wagon. Don't laugh.
Posted By: nickbuol Re: Retro Cars - 09/19/06 03:44 AM
Yeah, I know. I've owned a lot of "cooler" cars in the past, but I just drive it to and from work. I refuse to fall into the "American" trap of paying a lot for a car, that ends up travelling 16 miles (total round trip) Monday - Friday only and just sits in a public parking lot all day.

No thanks.

Unless, of course, someone wants to GIVE me a nice car.

I AM playing the Powerball lottery this week. If I win the $170M, I'll be sure to share with all of my Axiom friends. (Don't hold your breath. I know I'm not.)
Posted By: oldskoolboarder Re: Retro Cars - 09/19/06 07:19 AM
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I like those FJ Cruisers, Cesar. I think we may be in the minority, though. Good or bad, the car exhibits a lot of character IMO--something most new cars lack. Take this from the guy who used to drive a beat up old VW. Talk about character. . .




Thanks Sean. I love this car and so does everyone on the fjcruiserforums.

I got tired of having my 1999 BMW 528iT in for costly repairs. Looking forward to having a reliable Japanese car for a bit. Pretty reasonable pricewise too, just under $30K for most of the options. A few things I was able to find online and install myself like a tow hitch. Great conversation piece, everyone at the office knows when I'm at work too.

I also drove a vw in college. More of a Cal Bug. '62, dropped, dechromed, 1600 single port carb. I LOVED that car and it was pretty easy to fix.
Posted By: RickF Re: Retro Cars - 09/19/06 08:22 PM
Hey Oldskool I also like the look of the FJ Cruisers, neighbor down the street just bought a yellow FJ exactly like yours ... I think it looks cool and tough at the same time.
Posted By: rgold1963 Re: Retro Cars - 09/19/06 10:09 PM
The FJ Cruiser looks nice! I thought they would be at least 30K! What kind of mileage does it get? My wife is in need of a new car and that thing would be perfect for where we live. She is spoiled from the economy of her little Nissan and I am having a hard time convincing her to look at anything else. She really needs 4 wheel drive but she hates the fact that they suck down so much fuel!
Ron
Posted By: oldskoolboarder Re: Retro Cars - 09/20/06 12:30 AM
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The FJ Cruiser looks nice! I thought they would be at least 30K! What kind of mileage does it get? My wife is in need of a new car and that thing would be perfect for where we live. She is spoiled from the economy of her little Nissan and I am having a hard time convincing her to look at anything else. She really needs 4 wheel drive but she hates the fact that they suck down so much fuel!
Ron




I have an AT 4x4. It's the same V6 from the 4runner, suspension is borrowed from the LandCruiser Prado sold in other countries so there's a lot of aftermarket parts that will fit. The manual calls for 91 octane but you can run down to regular unleaded, Toyota posted a bulletin indicating so.

Gas mileage was a factor for me, though I did want a "green" 4x4. I was thinking of the Tahoe that could take the ethanol but the nearest pump is about 30 mi away. I couldn't stomacy paying over $35K for a Hybrid Highlander either. This has the best mileage for an SUV of this size. I've been tracking since I bought it and I'm averaging about 18 MPG. Some owners have seen up to 22 MPG, though that might be w/ the manual transmission.

It's very functional, even for my 17 mo old and 4 yr old. Seats are waterproof (cloth) and floors can be hosed. Comes w/ CD changer and AUX input for my iPod. Has the NXT headliner speaker and 8" sub, sound is fine, not stellar. Looking forward to trying rock crawling after I get a lift kit.
Posted By: rgold1963 Re: Retro Cars - 09/20/06 04:40 PM
The mileage is the killer. I get that out of my Ram2500 diesel with 2000lbs in the back. I wish someone would make an AWD, 40mpg diesel mid size car! The VW's with the TDI, get great mileage but they don't offer the AWD with that engine. Doesn't make any sense to me. Maybe someday the auto makers will realize there is a market for it.
Posted By: oldskoolboarder Re: Retro Cars - 09/20/06 05:21 PM
yeah, lot's of people want the FJ Diesel. Alas, not in the US, worse in California. Last I heard, Benz's attempt to get the new Bluetec Diesels approved in CA. 48 states are approved...
Posted By: RickF Re: Retro Cars - 09/20/06 05:22 PM
I'm with you there Ron, my 3/4 ton diesel Ford crew cab gets better fuel millage than most mid sized SUVs and totes considerably more ... I'm waiting for the day whenever Detroit can come out with a half ton diesel pickup for those of us who wants the reliability and fuel millage of the diesel engine but doesn't necessarily need a 3/4 truck.

I work in a huge farming area and several years ago the trend was to have a huge crew-cab long bed 4x4 diesel, everybody got tired of trying to maneuver these beast and a lot of the guys downsized to F-150s and Chevy 1500s but the rough, muddy and dusty conditions were horrific on the drive trains so now 9 out of 10 are back with the 3/4 diesels ... it's just hard to beat 'em.
Posted By: rgold1963 Re: Retro Cars - 09/20/06 05:54 PM
I have 224,000 miles on mine and it runs as good as the day I bought it. Cummins makes a fine engine!
Ford has hired Rouche(sp?) engineering to make a liquid feed propane burning version of the 5.4L triton engine for the 2007 F150's. They should haave the first working prototype out next month. Since I have 1500 gallons of propane storage here and I get it for less than half of what diesel costs, I will certainly take a hard look at these when they come out. When I bought my diesel truck, I could fill it up for under $40! It's over three times that now! And to make it worse..... It would seem that every single thing I buy has gone right up along with the cost of fuel. Really cuts into the profit margin of running a business.
Posted By: RickF Re: Retro Cars - 09/20/06 09:53 PM
Ron my current '02 7.3 Powerstroke has 245k miles on it and other than routine maintenance along with the A/C compressor/dryer replacement I haven't had nary the first problem with the truck (knock on wood). I had a '96 Dodge with the 12 valve Cummins and really liked the engine but the tranny went south at 165K miles, and that's when I went with the Ford ... both are great trucks but Dodge has really stepped up the ante with the MegaCab. Although I've never been brand partial I'd probably go with another Ford.

I put 200+ miles a day on the truck and depending on the price of a gallon of diesel on any particular day I'll spend anywhere from 65 to 75+ bucks every other day to get back and forth to work...every now and again I fly my plane close to the house for maintenance, leave it overnight and get the use of a Ford Ranger but the idea of staring down the lug nuts of a semi in the other lane on I-95 really turns me off of the small stuff. That and I don't like my knees bouncing off of the steering wheel.

That's why I'm thinking a half ton diesel would be killer.
Posted By: pmbuko Re: Retro Cars - 09/21/06 02:47 AM
200+ miles a day? I have no idea how you do it. You must go through a lot of CDs.
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