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Posted By: Paul_Bassi First timer with BBq'ing (tips?) - 08/15/07 02:46 AM
hey, its me again (I usually hang out in the HT forums) and I am showing keen interest into the tasty world of BBQ. I am in a conquest to take pride of my BBQ'ing skills and shall be named the 'BBQ King'. I shall reign supreme!!!

*ahem*

Anyways, I got some BBQ food over the summer and setup my BBQ and wondering if you could gimme any helpful tips (especially on how to cook them) and good BBQ recipes I should try.

These are the item I have obtained/acquired so far in my quest:

Pork side ribs
Pork Chops (3/4" center cut)
New York steaks
Bacon wrapped tenderloin
Shrimp

I first of all shall know how to cook these items, and then obtained top secret hidden recipes.


I will inform you about my quest, and shall take pictures are these desired items.

Thanks.
Posted By: tomtuttle Re: First timer with BBq'ing (tips?) - 08/15/07 04:47 AM
So, Paul, is the beer cold in Calgary tonight?

I think you'd probably "grill" the steaks, shrimp and chops, and "barbeque" the ribs.

I very highly recommend The Cook's Illustrated Guide To Grilling And Barbecue

Seems like we've ruminated upon this topic quite a bit. My opinion is that it's more about technique than recipes.
Posted By: Ken.C Re: First timer with BBq'ing (tips?) - 08/15/07 05:44 AM
Steaks are easy. Chops are easy. Hot fire, flip once, check temperature. Ribs are harder, at least on a grill. I imagine they're fairly easy on a smoker. Never tried shrimp.
Posted By: Mojo Re: First timer with BBq'ing (tips?) - 08/15/07 05:47 AM
I suggest that you also grill veggies. Olive oil, balsamic vinegar and garlic can do wonders to green onions, eggplant, turnip, tomatoes and cabbage. Corn brushed with olive oil and chipotle is awesome too.
Posted By: pmbuko Re: First timer with BBq'ing (tips?) - 08/15/07 12:00 PM
no no no. If you have thick chops, you want medium to low heat so the outside doesn't get tough while the inside reaches a safe temp.
Posted By: HomeDad Re: First timer with BBq'ing (tips?) - 08/15/07 03:23 PM
Chops and steaks I always go medium to low heat on the grill, I've made to much charcol playing with the high heats.
Posted By: Ken.C Re: First timer with BBq'ing (tips?) - 08/15/07 03:59 PM
Oops. Pay no attention to the guy who hasn't grilled chops in a few years.
Posted By: Paul_Bassi Re: First timer with BBq'ing (tips?) - 08/16/07 06:01 AM
ok i am going to BBQ today. To start off, going to BBQ New York steaks and BBQ'ed shrimp.

I am going to marinate my steaks and wondering how long should I cook them on each side to achieve a medium well? I heard you only flip the steak once on medium/low. Is this true? And for how long?

For the shrimp, thinking of making garlic buttered shrimp. Should I cook a set for about 2-3 minutes and during that time flipping them over?
Posted By: BrenR Re: First timer with BBq'ing (tips?) - 08/16/07 06:34 AM
Many people I know (that work in restaurants serving steak) use the hand method of testing doneness:
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Using the palm of your hand, follow the instructions below. This is how meat will feel to the touch when it has reached the indicated doneness.

Rare: Squeeze the pad at the base of your thumb. It should feel spongy and offer very little resistance.

Medium: Press on the middle of the palm of your outstretched hand. It should feel firm and snap back quickly.

Well-Done: Squeeze the base of your small finger. It should feel very firm with almost no give. (For best flavor it is not recommended that you cook your steak to well-done.)
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Personally I just make an incision and look at it. So if you don't like anyone making the first cut into your steak, don't have me make it. Meat thermometers don't work worth jack in things like steaks, I find.

When it doubt, check it out.

Also, steakhouses seem to undercook steaks by 1 or 2 levels... and there's usually a level or so difference in people's judgements...

Mine are:
Well - solid colour throughout, no free running juices
Medium well - inside is slightly pink, juices mostly colourless
Medium - inside is pink, juices run pink to red
Medium Rare - inside is pink to red, juices run red
Rare - inside is red, blood everywhere
Blue Rare - I wave an acetylene torch near your steak, enjoy your tapeworm



Bren R.
Posted By: Mojo Re: First timer with BBq'ing (tips?) - 08/16/07 01:23 PM
Paul,

This is the best marinade and cooking method I have found. To make it work, your BBQ must be really hot and use steaks no more than 1" thick. I get my BBQ up to at least 700F before I throw the steaks on.

Also check out this thread.
Posted By: bigwill2 Re: First timer with BBq'ing (tips?) - 08/16/07 06:17 PM
Shrimp need skewers or a special grate that will keep the little buggers from falling into the fire.

Cutting into your steak while grilling will cause it to lose a bunch of juice, but if you are picky about getting it to a certain level of doneness....

Personally, I do the poke and prod method, usually trying to err on the side of under-cooked. Stick em on a plate, wrap with foil and let em sit for 5 minutes.

Going to grill up some carne asada today, marinated in OJ and homegrown habaneros. Hope I don't get hurt.
Posted By: HAY Re: First timer with BBq'ing (tips?) - 08/17/07 01:35 PM
Quote:

ok i am going to BBQ today. To start off, going to BBQ New York steaks and BBQ'ed shrimp.

I am going to marinate my steaks and wondering how long should I cook them on each side to achieve a medium well? I heard you only flip the steak once on medium/low. Is this true? And for how long?

For the shrimp, thinking of making garlic buttered shrimp. Should I cook a set for about 2-3 minutes and during that time flipping them over?




I would only use a dry rub on a New York cut steak personally. As long as your steak is at least 3/4" preferably an 1" it will be tender enough if cooked properly.
It's very tough I find to give a time to flip due to differences in grills and methods. The best thing you can do though is make sure your grill is hot enough and keep the lid closed until you flip.
I personally like to grill my steaks on high heat to quickly cook and seer the outside and leaving the inside juicy and tender. Of course I like me steaks medium rare. The hand method to check tenderness is tried and true, when I was working at a restaurant years ago that's how we were shown as well. Takes sometime to get comfortable/confident with it and remember your meals will continue to cook for awhile after you take them off the grill.

Finally as for shrimp on the barbie, I find keeping the shell on works best so it's nice and succulent. It's too easy to over cook or dry out the shrimp as they cook fast. I also have had good experience cooking seasoned then frozen shrimp (blasphemy)

If your looking for an easy excellent meat to bbq with, let me suggest Pork Tenderloin. This is one of my wifes and mine absolute favorites. It takes to any marinade or rub and is so tender that it's almost impossible to screw up. The only thing you need to be aware of is the meat is tappered so the ends are thinner and can burn. To avoid this wrap the ends in aluminum foil and remove towards the end to brown.
I also like to actually cook them completely wrapped in foil to steam/cook and then take them out to crisp the outside. Same for sausages...
Posted By: pmbuko Re: First timer with BBq'ing (tips?) - 08/17/07 03:18 PM
Quote:

Of course I like me steaks medium rare



Methinks we be two of a kind.
Posted By: Ken.C Re: First timer with BBq'ing (tips?) - 08/17/07 04:05 PM
I agree with just about everything Hay just said. I don't marinate steak any more, unless it's really, really not a good cut of meat. Dry rubs are an excellent way to go. Penzey's Spices has some good mixes.
Posted By: Murph Re: First timer with BBq'ing (tips?) - 08/22/07 12:41 PM
Quote:


Medium: Press on the middle of the palm of your outstretched hand. It should feel firm and snap back quickly.




My mind wasplaying tricks with me. I read the end of the above to say "should feel firm and slaps back quickly."

Man, how many times has that happened to me?
Posted By: BrenR Re: First timer with BBq'ing (tips?) - 08/22/07 07:16 PM
Quote:

Quote:


Medium: Press on the middle of the palm of your outstretched hand. It should feel firm and snap back quickly.


My mind wasplaying tricks with me. I read the end of the above to say "should feel firm and slaps back quickly."



What kind of meat do you guys HAVE out east!?!

Bren R.
Posted By: BrenR Re: First timer with BBq'ing (tips?) - 08/22/07 09:45 PM
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB118765164430203472.html?mod=fpa_mostpop

Saw this today... thought of you guys... barbequing KILLS!

Kind of reminds me of the HVAC guy that tried to upsell me on an electrostatic air cleaner... "uh, you've seen me go out for a smoke about 10 times since you've been here... how concerned do you think I am about what I put in my lungs?"

Bren R.
Posted By: UNCMo96 Re: First timer with BBq'ing (tips?) - 08/23/07 05:07 PM
I got my first real grill this summer (Weber s-650) and I've been using the hell out of it and gotten pretty good.

1. For steaks what I do is set a 2 zone fire. 1/2 the grill to medium high to high (the webers get hot!) and the other half to low. I let the total grill temp get to about 600-700.

2. For prepping the steak I either use a dry store bought rub OR for my wife A-1 (she prefers A-1).

3. I put both steaks on the hot side of the grill for 1 min. I then rotate them 45 degrees and grill another min. Then flip and repeat the above for the other side. At this point you'll have anywhere from rare to medium rare steaks (depending on thickness) with nice grill marks (I usually pull my steak off here).

4. If you want medium to medium well (for the wife) bring the steaks to the cooler side of the grill and cook another minute or 2 on each side.

I don't rely on the poke test and instead use an instant read meat thermometer to ensure correct doness.

Mo's grillin
Posted By: Ken.C Re: First timer with BBq'ing (tips?) - 08/23/07 05:09 PM
What temp do you go for with medium rare/rare? I usually aim for 135, but I'm not sure if that's right. This trouble is compounded by the fact that most of the time, my steaks aren't of uniform thickness. Maybe I need to spend more money on meat...
Posted By: BrenR Re: First timer with BBq'ing (tips?) - 08/23/07 07:39 PM
Our meat thermometer says:
Rare - 140
Medium - 160
Well - 170

Bren R.
Posted By: Ken.C Re: First timer with BBq'ing (tips?) - 08/23/07 08:00 PM
Your meat thermometer is evil. Evil, I tells you! 170? That's not well done, that's graphite.
Posted By: BrenR Re: First timer with BBq'ing (tips?) - 08/23/07 08:22 PM
Mmm carbon steak.

Bren R.
Posted By: pmbuko Re: First timer with BBq'ing (tips?) - 08/23/07 08:51 PM
Mmm. Cake.
Posted By: UNCMo96 Re: First timer with BBq'ing (tips?) - 08/23/07 11:47 PM
My thermometer says 120 130 140 160 for rare medium rare medium well and well. I find the steak keeps gooking so if you pull it at 150 it'll be well done by the time it hits the table. Also thickness varies this a little as well.
Posted By: Mojo Re: First timer with BBq'ing (tips?) - 08/24/07 12:17 AM
Quote:

I find the steak keeps gooking...




I try to avoid gooky steak.
Posted By: RickWhittle Re: First timer with BBq'ing (tips?) - 08/24/07 09:38 PM
As a Weber charcoal BBQ owner and a Rib enthusiast (we have had an annual family rib competition for 6 years) There is only 1 way to do ribs. Braise them and then finish with some dry heat on the hot grill and sauce them as they come off. The meat falls off the bone! With the right sauce -- thems good eatin'!

And of course drink lots of beer....
Posted By: chesseroo Re: First timer with BBq'ing (tips?) - 08/25/07 01:03 AM
Smoke ribs on the bbq tomorrow.

A friend is putting on the show with his new Kenmore cooker.
He plans on cooking them all day so i hope he knows what he's doing. Otherwise we'll all be chewing leather for dinner.
I may have to skip the dinner and stick with the liquid course.
Posted By: jakewash Re: First timer with BBq'ing (tips?) - 08/25/07 01:44 AM
I like a nice T-Bone steak with just a little seasoning salt and if its 3/4" thick or so about 5-7 min on one side at 350-400 and 5-7 on the other and you have medium rare to medium depending on the actual thickness and temps.

I am with Bren, if I am in doubt I cut it open, better safe than sick.
Posted By: Paul_Bassi Re: First timer with BBq'ing (tips?) - 08/25/07 07:44 AM
Woah, a lot of msgs in this topic.

Ok, well I did BBQ first time and it was awesome! I will explain more about this with pics tommorrow or in the next few days depending on my schedule.
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