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Posted By: tomtuttle Cable Modem configuration question - 04/27/09 05:53 PM
I am replacing DSL with Comcast cable modem. Installation is set for tomorrow.

Currently, the DSL modem (Cisco 678) sits between my router (D-Link WRT54G) and the world. I want to simply replace that appliance with the Motorola SB5101 cable modem.

The SB5101 instructions seem to indicate that it requires a dedicated USB connection. Because of where all this stuff is located, I don't really have any interest in having it hooked up to a computer via USB all the time.

I kind of figured that the USB connection was only for setup (like the serial connection on the cisco) and that - after you've got everything "done" - you can disconnect the USB and just enjoy your bandwidth.

I don't see how I'd access the cable modem when my router is already 168.1.0.0 (or whatever) on my network.

So, I guess my question for those of you with cable modem access is - are you required to have a perpetual USB connection to the cable modem?

The answer could dramatically affect "where" I have the copper installed.

Thanks for your help.
Posted By: fredk Re: Cable Modem configuration question - 04/27/09 06:31 PM
Nope. Mines a Moterolla SB5100. I see there is a usb port on the back, but I've never used it for anything. Don't know what its for.
Posted By: Murph Re: Cable Modem configuration question - 04/27/09 06:33 PM
Our service is DSL but a quick peek at the FAQ for this modem says you can use USB or up to 100MB Ethernet. You should be fine plugging it by Ethernet directly into your router.

I didn't dig deep enough to definitely answer your second question but it should not be a problem. It may pass on a 'real' Internet address that your router will 'route' to your local 168 network. If not you may have to tweak a bit but the setup looks like it will walk you through this step.
Posted By: tomtuttle Re: Cable Modem configuration question - 04/27/09 06:34 PM
Cool, Fred, thanks.

Do you have the Ethernet cable from the SB5100 attached to a router, then?
Posted By: Murph Re: Cable Modem configuration question - 04/27/09 06:40 PM
Andrew also says, "your Welcome"....

heh heh, Kidding!
Posted By: tomtuttle Re: Cable Modem configuration question - 04/27/09 06:55 PM
Yes, Andrew, thank you as well! Apparently, you and I hit "send" at about the same time; you message was not yet visible to me when I replied to Fred's post.

So, "Thank's" ;\)
Posted By: fredk Re: Cable Modem configuration question - 04/27/09 07:02 PM
I'm running ethernet to a linix firewall box. Its not a real network yet, but its the same thing.

When I originally got this, the cable company set it up. I remember them asking how I wanted the box hooked up to my computer. I just chose ethernet. Since the only other connection on the back of the modem is USB, that must have been the other choice.
Here's your new modem.

It has both a USB port and an ethernet jack. This is pretty common on both DSL and Cable modems. You'll use the ethernet port to connect to your DLink router, just as you do now with the DSL. Your DLink should continue doing exactly what it has been doing. It shouldn't need to change, unless it's some bizarre case of being incompatible with the cable modem.

I'm not sure of the specifics of your situation, but you may have to adjust some of the settings in the DLink so that it will be able to 'see' the Internet. The last time I had a cable modem, if I remember correctly, my router was set up in a more-or-less 'Automatic acquire' mode for the WAN connection (router's connection to the Internet). It grabbed the DNS & gateway info automatically. With my DSL modem, this had to be changed to a 'PPPOE' connection where the router supplies a Username/password to the modem for the connection to my DSL provider's (Verizon) network.

The tech guy doing the install ought to be able to help you with this setup.

The UBS ports on the back of these things are for networking without a network. For situations where a customer doesn't have a router. You can plug these modems directly into a PC/Mac with a USB cable and it'll provide an internet connection. With a router, you wouldn't be using this feature. But with some modems (my DSL modem for instance), it's also the only way to directly configure them and/or do firmware updates.

When I had a cable modem, I never had to do anything with the cable modem itself other than plug it in; AC, Cable, ethernet to router. All of the settings that mattered were done to my router's config settings.

Good luck!
Posted By: tomtuttle Re: Cable Modem configuration question - 04/27/09 08:29 PM
Whew! Thanks so much, gentlemen. I'm going with Plan A until further notice.
Posted By: danmagicman7 Re: Cable Modem configuration question - 04/28/09 12:45 AM
Comcast is evil.
Posted By: tomtuttle Re: Cable Modem configuration question - 04/28/09 04:54 AM
Yes, but I was weary of Qwest's brand of evil.
Posted By: Murph Re: Cable Modem configuration question - 04/28/09 07:14 PM
It's too bad you don't get a Netgear modem with that service, then you would have gotten to watch this quirky, no Disturbing, set up video.

Sucking back your strawberry data milkshake....

I think this is a candidate for 'the worst movie you ever watched to see if it gets worse' thread.
Posted By: Murph Re: Cable Modem configuration question - 04/28/09 07:18 PM
Also, expect your setup guy to be running late.


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Posted By: tomtuttle Re: Cable Modem configuration question - 05/27/14 05:16 PM
So, the reliability of my connection to Comcast is flaky, sometimes. I called and talked to a human being the other day, who informed me that my existing cable modem is past end-of-life, which means that they basically can't guarantee availability of my service.

After resolving that I never want to speak with individuals at this tech support center again, I also mentally capitulated to buy a new cable modem.

A previous call to Comcast's sales department revealed that the (seemingly knowledgeable American lady) tech didn't recommend the Motorola SB6121 AT ALL. I think she actually said "don't get that one".

So, I'm looking for the value point for a retail Docsis 3.0 cable modem. Currently thinking that the Motorola SB6141 might be it.

What say you?
Posted By: Murph Re: Cable Modem configuration question - 05/28/14 02:09 PM
Sorry, kinda my thing but our company is pretty much all fiber Internet now with DSL in the rural areas (like where I live, sniff). Cable is the competitor. So I have nothing valuable to add.

I just wanted to chime in to annoy Bob with further post recycling.
Posted By: Ken.C Re: Cable Modem configuration question - 05/28/14 02:13 PM
Where did Bob go?
Posted By: Murph Re: Cable Modem configuration question - 05/28/14 02:16 PM
See his anti-recycling post for further details.
Better yet, cut and paste it all and start a new thread. Also, fill it with emotes.
Posted By: Ken.C Re: Cable Modem configuration question - 05/28/14 04:13 PM
Maybe I'll just cut and paste it into this one.
Posted By: tomtuttle Re: Cable Modem configuration question - 05/28/14 04:15 PM
"Thanks"
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