Arguing about audio? how about breadmaking?

Posted by: chesseroo

Arguing about audio? how about breadmaking? - 03/29/13 03:14 PM

Apparently the puerile arguments that occur in audio are not contained to this hobby (or a few select others) but rather are prominent i suspect in virtually every forum that exists on the planet.

I mean really, how can people get snooty and snotty about a damn breadmaker?

http://www.thefreshloaf.com/node/28000/which-bread-machine-should-i-purchase-help

Quote from a person over half way down the thread:

These replies seem to be devolving into a religious battle of sorts. Either you are a purist and do everything by hand or you cop out and bake bread the wrong way.
Posted by: Ken.C

Re: Arguing about audio? how about breadmaking? - 03/29/13 03:46 PM

Breadmakers, in my experience, always make bread that tastes the same, no matter what recipe is used.

There, that ought to be flamebait-y enough.
Posted by: chesseroo

Re: Arguing about audio? how about breadmaking? - 03/29/13 04:18 PM

I think there needs to be a deeper discussion on the single thumb dough folding vs. cryogenic formed breakmaker box methods.
Posted by: medic8r

Re: Arguing about audio? how about breadmaking? - 03/29/13 04:22 PM

Ken, you need to elevate the power cord and have your bread maker plugged into a power conditioner for best performance.
Posted by: chesseroo

Re: Arguing about audio? how about breadmaking? - 03/29/13 04:23 PM

Without a power conditioner the bread comes out bloated and fat sounding.
Posted by: medic8r

Re: Arguing about audio? how about breadmaking? - 03/29/13 04:27 PM

Word! I mean, I don't know what an A-B test is, but all I know is you can really taste the difference, man.
Posted by: CatBrat

Re: Arguing about audio? how about breadmaking? - 03/29/13 04:29 PM

No better bread than that made with back to the basic old fashioned way. By hand. Yummmmy.

I used to make bread all the time. Haven't done that in years. Later tried a bread maker. Just wasn't the same.

Dang! Now you got me jones-ing for a home made loaf of bread.
Posted by: real80sman

Re: Arguing about audio? how about breadmaking? - 03/29/13 08:07 PM

Because of the layout in our kitchen, we have to toe the breadmaker in a few degrees. Otherwise the top end is flat and lifeless.
Posted by: INANE

Re: Arguing about audio? how about breadmaking? - 03/30/13 01:48 AM

It's obvious that a bread maker using this power cord would taste better.
Posted by: real80sman

Re: Arguing about audio? how about breadmaking? - 03/30/13 03:26 PM

Originally Posted By: INANE
It's obvious that a bread maker using this power cord would taste better.


$1295 on sale?!?!? What a deal! It's too bad my builder used the $1.99 electrical outlets throughout the house, or else I might have considered it. Darn.
Posted by: jakewash

Re: Arguing about audio? how about breadmaking? - 03/30/13 07:00 PM

Shawn, you could easily upgrade those outlets to these and I bet a breadmaker plugged into one of them would have less noise while in use.
Posted by: BlueJays1

Re: Arguing about audio? how about breadmaking? - 03/30/13 07:46 PM

Homemade bread definitely needs a starter if you want any sort of flavour. If you can't bother with that the "No Knead" recipe is pretty amazing. Makes a flavourful, crispy thin crust dough for pizza as well.

I would be in the camp to not bother with a bread machine. Convection oven for me.

http://www.steamykitchen.com/168-no-knead-bread-revisited.html
Posted by: Ken.C

Re: Arguing about audio? how about breadmaking? - 03/30/13 08:20 PM

I've gotten very good results with the recipes from the King Arthur Flour cookbook. Haven't tried anything with a starter, and I get pretty good flavor. Just not sourdough, obviously.
Posted by: Eno

Re: Arguing about audio? how about breadmaking? - 03/31/13 01:45 PM

I put spikes on the bottom of my breadmaker because I thought I would get better bread, but it it put scratches all over my counter.

I went back to the rubber feet.
Posted by: Ken.C

Re: Arguing about audio? how about breadmaking? - 03/31/13 02:01 PM

You should only use breadmaker spikes on carpeted counters. However, stabilizer bars work wonders.
Posted by: jakewash

Re: Arguing about audio? how about breadmaking? - 03/31/13 08:31 PM

Outriggers are a must for breadmakers, keeps the kids and/or pets from knocking them over.
Posted by: Murph

Re: Arguing about audio? how about breadmaking? - 04/01/13 08:05 AM

The secret to good bread machine bread is Monteray Jack, chopped jalapenos and a good, home made, dried chile sauce (by using a sauce instead of chile powder, it adds to the moistness.)

So good, you won't care that it was made by a world ending robot.
Posted by: chesseroo

Re: Arguing about audio? how about breadmaking? - 04/03/13 07:47 PM

As an added note, we've owned a Zojirushi BBCC X20 for about 9 years now.
I can't fathom how many loaves have gone through this thing. Everything from regular whites to cinammon raison, cheese and onion, three grain, rye, pizza dough.
We've tried a bunch of recipes.
It takes some of the guess work and watch work out of the process which is alot easier for anyone who doesn't have the time to do it by hand.
And from whatever method it is made, everyone just loves the fact it is fresh bread, period.
Posted by: pmbuko

Re: Arguing about audio? how about breadmaking? - 04/03/13 10:44 PM

Too true. The loaves we make in our maker are completely devoured within the hour. Not much can beat warm, fresh bread with butter.
Posted by: chesseroo

Re: Arguing about audio? how about breadmaking? - 04/04/13 10:39 AM

Originally Posted By: pmbuko
devoured within the hour

Ouch.
As a health nut friend of mine would say "so many empty calories".
But this is from the same dude who devours our fresh bread whenever he comes over. They never buy bread for their own household of four.

Something about having a bread addiction.
Posted by: jakewash

Re: Arguing about audio? how about breadmaking? - 04/04/13 10:53 PM

Fresh baked bread/buns in my house doesn't even make it past the cool down, gone is sixty seconds would be a pretty close approximation.
Posted by: Ken.C

Re: Arguing about audio? how about breadmaking? - 04/04/13 10:59 PM

Anyone do pretzels? Those go fast around here.
Posted by: richeydog

Re: Arguing about audio? how about breadmaking? - 04/04/13 11:21 PM

These pretzels are making me thirsty!
Posted by: pmbuko

Re: Arguing about audio? how about breadmaking? - 04/04/13 11:55 PM

Pretzels get me all twisted up inside.
Posted by: dakkon

Re: Arguing about audio? how about breadmaking? - 04/05/13 11:35 PM

Originally Posted By: jakewash
Shawn, you could easily upgrade those outlets to these and I bet a breadmaker plugged into one of them would have less noise while in use.



why the hell do people buy this crap..!!!! it's freaking copper!!!!!! as far as i know it, on Earth, we only have one elements table. Sooo copper has the same atomic structure, regardless of price!!!! Also, the exact same electrical conductivity, and reaistance..!!!!!


Jake, you got me freaking going man..!!!!!! I blame you for this pointless rant...
Posted by: JohnK

Re: Arguing about audio? how about breadmaking? - 04/05/13 11:57 PM

Alex, you have to keep in mind the enormous prestige that having "audio grade" outlets would bring to you when a visitor who happened to be an "audiophile" noticed that you cared enough about "quality" electricity to install them throughout your house.

For your further amusement, take a look at this nonsensical discussion of the "neutrality, speed, accurateness[sic], immediacy and natural timbre" to be had with this outlet .
Posted by: Ken.C

Re: Arguing about audio? how about breadmaking? - 04/06/13 08:19 AM

Well, just for pedantry's sake, atomic structures can vary significantly.
Posted by: pmbuko

Re: Arguing about audio? how about breadmaking? - 04/07/13 11:43 PM

Well, not all copper was created equally, right? Some of it is stretched so you get one long copper crystal running the entire length of the cable. For superior sound. crazy
Posted by: chesseroo

Re: Arguing about audio? how about breadmaking? - 04/10/13 07:16 PM

Originally Posted By: pmbuko
For superior sound. crazy

If someone can make our breadmaker sound better, i'm all for a new electrical outlet.