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Posted By: spiffnme DIY audio cables - 06/29/04 04:22 PM
I'd like to give making my own audio cables a shot. If I use Belden 1505F cable, and mate that with Canare C42 RCAP connectors, do I need any special tools? I have a crimping tool already. (This one)

Would this work alright for those Canare RCAP connectors?

If so, I can make a nice 4' pair of audio cables for about $13. The savings is pretty much blown if I have to buy the specific Canare crimping tool.




Posted By: CosmicVoyager Re: DIY audio cables - 06/29/04 05:50 PM
I own all of the Canare tools from past installs.
I would definitely invest in the crimper and stripper. The dies are made to crimp the sleeve to exact tolerances. However, Canare has connectors that you can solder. It's almost as easy as crimping. Let me know if you need more information.

Posted By: spiffnme Re: DIY audio cables - 06/29/04 06:17 PM
I have a soldering iron, so perhaps that's a better way for me to go. The Canare crimping tool and dies are really expensive.

What Canare connections (solder) would I need to make something with Belden 1505F cable?


Posted By: CosmicVoyager Re: DIY audio cables - 06/29/04 06:20 PM
The solder type part numbers for Canare connectors.
F-09
F-10

Depending on the cable diameter.

A good 40 watt iron (or whatever you prefer) and some 60/40 solder. I personally like the lower wattage Irons. Practice. You want to make sure that all of the solder joints are shiny. Do not use rosin core solder.

Tom
Posted By: CosmicVoyager Re: DIY audio cables - 06/29/04 07:04 PM
Here's an intresting link on connectors.
http://www.enjoythemusic.com/magazine/equipment/0901/rcashootout.htm

It sounds like the F-10 will do the job. It's also not a bad Idea to use a glue gun to "fill the cavity" after your done soldering and testing.
Posted By: spiffnme Re: DIY audio cables - 06/30/04 01:26 AM
Decent article...thought they seemed far from impressed by those Canare RCA's.

Hmmmm....


Posted By: CosmicVoyager Re: DIY audio cables - 06/30/04 01:43 AM
Yes, I was surprised by what they said. Rather disappointed.

Anyway, lots of people use them and recommend them. I have never had a problem with them myself. But if there is something better for the money, I'd give it a try.

Posted By: CosmicVoyager Re: DIY audio cables - 06/30/04 02:11 AM
One thing.. I didn't see any measurements in that article that would convince me that Canare is not as good as the rest that where tested. Now, if they would have had a side by side comparison, I might be more willing to listen.
They based the quality by the materials used in each connector. They didn't say that:
Body: Brass, Nickel Plated
Center Contact: Phosphor Bronze, Gold Plated
Outer Contacts: Beryllium Copper, Gold Plated
Dielectric Insulation: PPO Noryl
Insultation Resistance: >100Mohm at 500V DC
Contact Resistance: Bandwidth: DC to 200Mhz /=26dB Return Loss)

Oh well.
Posted By: Ken.C Re: DIY audio cables - 06/30/04 02:12 AM
It's a connector, guys. It has to carry the signal for about an inch. I wouldn't stress on it.
Posted By: JohnK Re: DIY audio cables - 06/30/04 02:17 AM
Ditto.
Posted By: CosmicVoyager Re: DIY audio cables - 06/30/04 02:41 AM
Your right, I just don't like it when people perform a review based on marketing literature and perceived build quality. Now, If they would have done an actual side by side "shoot out" with actual performance data to back up their "review" I would not be having this conversation.
I get so irritated by pseudo reviewers, like the ones you see at epinions.com (rant)

I'm done now
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