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Posted By: ravi_singh NIN - With Teeth in DVD-A - 03/23/05 09:08 PM
Trent confirmed on nin.com that With Teeth will come out in north america as a CD / DVD-A dualdisc for those interested. The mix was done by Trent and James Brown.
He claims the mix is better than that of the downward spiral. I assume the album may have been conceived with a 5.1 notion in mind. I may pick it up to hear it in 5.1 as I was previously unsure if I would be buying the album.
Posted By: Engine_Joe Re: NIN - With Teeth in DVD-A - 03/24/05 12:17 AM
I'll probably get this. I too was considering giving this album a pass, but if the 5.1 mix is good, it will at worst be a good demo/reference piece. And if the album is good, then I have the best of all worlds with the duel disc.
Posted By: ravi_singh Re: NIN - With Teeth in DVD-A - 03/24/05 03:51 PM
have you downloaded the video for The Hand That Feeds off their website? With the audio higher quality, the song sounds much better.
Posted By: Zarak Re: NIN - With Teeth in DVD-A - 03/24/05 06:48 PM
I've heard the DL from the nin site as well as hearing it on the radio for the first time last night. So far, I like what I hear.

And yes, I had heard a while back that DVD-A or SACD was coming out at the same time as the regular album. Guess they decided just DVD-A....either is fine with me. I'll be picking up that version on 5/3. I'm also looking into details for the 4/1 listening party in Philly, and may attend that as well.

Will you bite the hand the feeds you?
Posted By: ravi_singh Re: NIN - With Teeth in DVD-A - 03/24/05 09:26 PM
Zarak,

I'd definitely attend a listening party if I lived close enough to one.

If you go, let us know your impressions. Apparently last nights' show (the 1st of their tour) was amazing.
Posted By: Engine_Joe Re: NIN - With Teeth in DVD-A - 03/26/05 12:42 AM
have you downloaded the video for The Hand That Feeds off their website? With the audio higher quality, the song sounds much better.

Yah, it's better. I don't love it, but it's definitely more satisfying; not bad.

I'm not impressed with the video itself, however, which really is just an attempt to replay the March of the Pigs video (even implying at the end that it's a live recording like the March... video was; though it's clearly the studio recording, not live). Plus there seems to be some problem with the video and proscan, unless that's a deliberate combing effect...
Posted By: ravi_singh Re: NIN - With Teeth in DVD-A - 03/26/05 07:22 PM
engine joe

i get the feeling it was deliberate. but the video is still pretty boring. march of the pigs and gave up, which are similar, are better videos because they are actually live, like you said. if the song on the video was played live and had soemthing different to it then what's on the cd, it would be better. it also just doesn't seem to fit the song, but then again, the band doesn't fit the song, especially not the last 1m30s or so when it gets really pop and repetitive

the song is much better, but i agre with you, not great. i still don't enjoy the other two leaked tracks, the line begins to blur and getting smaller (especially getting smaller, what a bad song).

once it's all out there on mp3 i'll give it a listen and then see if i buy it on dvd-a or not.

Posted By: ravi_singh Re: NIN - With Teeth in DVD-A - 03/27/05 04:02 PM
well i just heard some more of the album from live recordings and samples of each song.

i don't like it.

look for a torrent called With Teeththat came out march 25th that's about 70 megs if you want to hear for yourself.
Posted By: Zarak Re: NIN - With Teeth in DVD-A - 03/28/05 02:19 AM
I am going to try to go to the listening party on Friday, so I'll wait until then to pass any judgement. I do agree that THTF gets repetitive, so it will likely be the type of song that people latch onto quickly and that burns out quickly as well.
Posted By: Engine_Joe Re: NIN - With Teeth in DVD-A - 03/28/05 01:36 PM
The album samples are weird - they seem to actually be loops. They're not 1 minute samples of the songs, they're 5 seconds, maybe 20 seconds, then repeated.

Or so it sounds.

Haven't heard the live stuff yet - time to go to work!
Posted By: ravi_singh Re: NIN - With Teeth in DVD-A - 03/28/05 04:39 PM
ya the samples seem to be loops. however, it sounds like crap. then when you hear the live songs, you realize the entire live song sounds like that, and it's crap.


Posted By: Engine_Joe Re: NIN - With Teeth in DVD-A - 03/29/05 03:33 PM
The only one that really sounded to me to have a lot of potential was "Beside You In Time." Funnily enough, the title track struck me as the most annoying.

BUT. We still haven't heard these songs properly. Loops of the choruses and lo-fi live versions of whole songs definitely give an impression, but I'm trying hard not to make judgments on that basis.

That said, we do know exactly what The Hand That Feeds, Getting Smaller, and The Line Begins To Blur sound like, and those don't excite.

We'll know soon enough. I'll be the whole album will be out there before long, since these samples got out. Hey, it's happened with every Radiohead album since Kid A!
Posted By: Zarak Re: NIN - With Teeth in DVD-A - 03/29/05 05:57 PM
I'm having second thoughts about going to the listening party in Philly after reading the writeup on the most recent one. It sounds like people were waiting in line for over two hours, and still didn't even get in until the event was 1/2 over. I'm going to check out other writeups throughout the week and determine if it is worth it. If I decide it is not, I'll wait til May 3rd to hear everything but THTF. From what I hear of these loops and low quality recordings, I don't want to hear them first anyway.
Posted By: bridgman Re: NIN - With Teeth in DVD-A - 03/29/05 07:13 PM
What the heck is a listening party that you have to line up two hours for ? I figured it was a few friends over for a few beers or something...
Posted By: Engine_Joe Re: NIN - With Teeth in DVD-A - 03/29/05 07:19 PM
I figured it was a few friends over for a few beers or something...

If one of your friends have a copy of an album that hasn't been released yet, I'll provide the beer!

This kind of 'listening party' is really just a record company promotional event. You get to buy expensive drinks and mill around a bar while the album plays over semi-crappy speakers so no one hears things clearly. At least in my experience of these events, anyway...
Posted By: bigjohn Re: NIN - With Teeth in DVD-A - 03/29/05 07:51 PM
In reply to:

listening party




when i was a kid, our listening parties were a bunch of kids drinkin kool-aid, and spinning records backwards to try and hear the 'secret messages'. we used to get all scared when we would spin the 'dark' or 'devilish' ones. we thought satan himself was gonna jump right off the turntable.

we never really heard much of anything, but i do remember a few.

'another one bites the dust' kinda sound like 'decide to smoke marijuana' when played backyards.

the Zep 4 album had ALL kinda stuff on it. or we just had a vivid imagination.

my buddy has some beatles albums that had a bunch of cool backyards stuff on them.

one of my dads steppenwolf albums had some weird stuff too.

and i remember being sooo disappointed that we didnt hear nothing on the early motley crue albums we did(too fast for love & shout at the devil). i was just positive we would find a link with hell on those albums.. but, alas, we did not. and the world is now safe..

bigjohn
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