selling a harman kardon avr 310 - Axiom Message Boards

im selling my hk avr 310. if anyone is interested please pm me. not sure on price whatever you think is fair. its 5 years old but looks and works great. i have both remotes but no manual. here is a pic.

This is against forum rules, please read.

I bought mine here

Randy, from the FAQ:

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Participants may not use the Forums to post or transmit advertisements or commercial solicitations of any kind.

Since this is a "personal" sale, I don't think it is against the rules, but is still frowned upon. The big no-no is when used Axioms are pedaled here. Pretty tacky to say the least.

Personally, until Axiom launches the new receiver, I kind of like when people offer up their electronics. I'm still waiting for someone with a honking power amp who is desperate for cash.

It was always my understanding that you couln't post about Axiom products that you're selling, for obvious reasons. Until Axiom enters the amp/receiver market, I don't really see any conflict of interest. I could be wrong, though.

Perhaps we could get an official statement from the management on such matters?

Either Ian or Amie made a statement a while back -- the gist of the issue is that if you host a board used for selling equipment long enough you get sued on a regular basis, usually by a ripped-off buyer who goes after everyone who might have money. The Axiom folks would prefer to avoid that kind of excitement if possible...

So, reading between the lines, I think the intention is "no selling of anything" not "no competition with Axiom". Posting for sale on something else like Audiogon or Canuck Audio Mart and mentioning the post here seems to be about the limit.

Bridgman got it in one. Unfortunately we just can't assume responsibility for people selling equipment here.

told ya all, if you want to sell something use Ebay.

Thanks Amie

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Participants may not use the Forums to post or transmit advertisements or commercial solicitations of any kind.

I'm late to this thread, and I'm far from being a lawyer. But in my reading of the above statement, I have a problem seeing how people could assume members can post a sale for any items.

I could convince myself the wording allowed private sales. Maybe a slight wording tweak at some point would help, spelling out "private or commercial sales" ?

I honestly doubt that any court of law would hold Axiom responsible if something was sold through these boards and a problem arose. A standard waiver on the main page removes any and all accountability if it was in fact an issue. But these are not my forums so it is what it is.

However, say I throw something on E-Bay or Audiogon or wherever and show up here and post a link to the ad asking if anybody from here wants it?

Technically I'm not selling it here but it's mentioned here. How would Axiom be viewed as liable and how would I be breaking the rules that are currently in place?

Please understand I’m not trying to start yet another flame war, I’m simply asking as I honestly don’t have the answer.

I don't have an answer for you, my simple view, Axiom has given their reason, agree or not, end of discussion.

Agreed, this is Axiom's forum, so I will respect their wishes and not try to beat around the bush.

Forgive me then for asking the question. I thought it was a fair question but I got my answer regardless. The Monster conditioner thread that is currently running more or less answered my question. Linking to something it seems is fine as I don’t see any of the wanna be Axiom "Mods" jumping all over that thread.

Definitely a fair question. I think the answer is "yeah, it's likely Axiom would win but I think they want to avoid having to fight lawsuits in the first place".

Linking to a "for sale" ad somewhere else seems to be OK. I think this is one of those "I don't know exactly where the abyss starts but would like to stay away from the edge please" situations.

"Linking to something it seems is fine as I don’t see any of the wanna be Axiom "Mods" jumping all over that thread."

If I could only remember the theme song.

Good one!

Wow, that takes me back.

Mod Squad Theme

Bren R.

Hilarious !!!