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Posted By: zorikos speakers on the way! - 04/04/07 09:50 PM
Hi everyone!

Excited about receiving my Axioms. I'm thinking of pairing them up with a yamaha receiver. Is this a good combo? Kind of a newbie when it comes to home theater.

Thanks
Posted By: SirQuack Re: speakers on the way! - 04/04/07 09:51 PM
What speakers did you order? You will find that any decent receiver from any manufacturer will work fine, well, stay away from Sony. Just joking.
Posted By: zorikos Re: speakers on the way! - 04/04/07 11:03 PM
I ordered M60s, VP150, QS8s Thinking of the yamaha RX-V1700 along with an HSU VTF3 to complete my system.
Posted By: SirQuack Re: speakers on the way! - 04/04/07 11:16 PM
Pretty much the same system I started with a few years back.

Started with m60's vp150 ep350 and 4 Qs8's
A year later upgraded to the ep500 sub
Recently upgraded to m80's and the ep600 sub.

Welcome by the way, you will enjoy your Axioms...
Posted By: Mojo Re: speakers on the way! - 04/05/07 12:13 AM
Sirquack is right. Stay away from Sony. I and everyone I know have had nothing but problems with Sony everything. You'll love your Axioms. Na ta herese, re!
Posted By: zorikos Re: speakers on the way! - 04/05/07 02:34 AM
Never considered sony as a receiver and to be honest not interested. Looking at yamaha, onkyo marantz etc. I hope to audition a few in the following days.

Mojo, efharisto megale
Posted By: JohnK Re: speakers on the way! - 04/05/07 02:54 AM
Zo, another welcome. There's no reason to be concerned about "matching" a receiver to speakers; competently designed units are suitable(within their power limits)for all speakers. If by "audition" you meant listening for sound differences, this is pointless, since any difference heard can be the result of numerous other factors, not any inherent "sound" of the receiver. The 1700(among others)would be an excellent choice.
Posted By: bhull Re: speakers on the way! - 04/05/07 06:23 AM
Quote:

Hi everyone!

Excited about receiving my Axioms. I'm thinking of pairing them up with a yamaha receiver. Is this a good combo? Kind of a newbie when it comes to home theater.

Thanks




I'm in the same boat (M80, Qs8, VP150). They are in the mail as we speak. Along with my Emo LPA/LMC combo....

The only pontential party pooper is my HSU sub. The VTF3-HO was backordered. They are expecting them in this week. The only thing is I might hold off on firing up my Axioms until the sub gets here. I want the whole enchilada assembled so it will blow me away.

Its going to drive me crazy to do this...see all the equipment sitting here and refusing to turn it on. LOL, I'm weird that way.
Posted By: axiom_man Re: speakers on the way! - 04/05/07 01:43 PM
Zorikos
You should try out the Sherwood Newcastle stuff from Axiom. Not sure if the return is the same as there speakers but......... or as I think Huztal directed me too Outlaw. I have a Denon 3803 and it works fine, but think I am going to try the Outlaw mono's ...one at a time
Posted By: KlipschGuy Re: speakers on the way! - 04/05/07 02:29 PM
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Zo, another welcome. There's no reason to be concerned about "matching" a receiver to speakers; competently designed units are suitable(within their power limits)for all speakers. If by "audition" you meant listening for sound differences, this is pointless, since any difference heard can be the result of numerous other factors, not any inherent "sound" of the receiver. The 1700(among others)would be an excellent choice.




John, I respectfully disagree, there is a huge difference in sound from one reciever/pre/pro to the next. I just switched from a Yamaha Rx-V2500 to the the EMO DMC1 and the sound is not even in the same ballpark. Where did you come up with this notion?
Chris
Posted By: axiom_man Re: speakers on the way! - 04/05/07 10:03 PM
maybe the new Axiom amp sounds like a winner
Posted By: JohnK Re: speakers on the way! - 04/06/07 03:34 AM
Chris, you certainly should be aware that if the frequency response is flat from 20-20KHz and the noise and distortion are at inaudibly low levels(all accomplished at quite low cost these days in all competently designed units)that there's no audible difference in the sound when the designed power limits aren't exceeded. There's no personal opinion or "notion" involved in this; basic principles of audio technology are applied to provide transparent amplification and claims regarding differences(sometimes "huge", "night and day", etc.)collapse when all the variables(especially holding sound level to within 0.1dB, a common failure in casual listening)are controlled in a proper blind listening test. This is well-established.
Posted By: Mojo Re: speakers on the way! - 04/06/07 04:28 AM
Two different amp models with the exact same THD figure can sound very different. The audible difference is a result of the distortion's harmonic content. You can listen to a tube amp that has 1% THD and it will sound better than a solid state amp with the same THD. The solid state amps tend to generate high order odd harmonics while the tube amps generate low order odd harmonics that are less offensive to our ears. But what about solid state amps that have a very low THD figure? Does harmonic content really matter? Are the differences that KlipschGuy (BTW, ditch that name) hears the result of the specific amplifier switching topology?

JohnK is right about frequency response. For practical listening applications, modern solid state amplifiers reproduce every frequency in the audible range with equal emphasis.

Maybe the differences that we hear are due to differing slew rates or output impedances or clipping distortion or open loop responses or speaker to amplifier interfaces. Or maybe all of the above combined. Who knows? The fact that there are audible differences between amps is actually obvious to most. The degree of difference and why there are differences is not.
Posted By: KlipschGuy Re: speakers on the way! - 04/06/07 03:09 PM
John, in that case your generic brand X HTIB that cost $150 at CC will sound the same as my EMO Big Dogs? Do you really beleive that?

There is more in these units than what you suggest, each company sees a different approach to how music should sound and hence design their equipment to sound a certain way. Lets A/B an HTIB against any decent AVR, no contest.

Out of interest, what are you using in your front end?
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