I'm looking to get something better than the vp150. I've had it since last september and although I've enjoyed it, I was hoping for a more theatrical sounding speaker. My first thought was to get a higher end center from another company. Some have argued heavily against this.
So my next idea, after watching several blu rays on 2ch(M60's), was to get two more M60's to work as the center channel. I'm excited about this idea, but I haven't yet discussed it with any audio experts.
My first question is,would there be a problem with having 4 m60's across the front, two being the centers(3 ft apart)? How about a pair of M22s? And the next question being...How does one go about doing this? I was planning to get the LMC-1, LPA-1 combo to power all this. I have a yamaha v2600 at the moment. Are the emotiva's(or something else) necessary to carry that load?
Current set up: VP150, M60 mains, Qs8 surrounds, 2 M2i backs. V2600 reciever
Also...Concerning the LPA-1, Does that power output also add on to the V2600 watts, or is it just 125W per channel? If not I might as well stick with my V2600.
There is an ongoing thread that may answer some of your questions.
Discussion link
Thank you for that link, some of that was very encouraging. Any input anyone might have would be much appreciated. How does one go about having two speakers as your center channel? Does it involve Bi-wiring? Someone please enlighten me.
Drew, mdrew has 2 M22s across the front of his theatre, he loves them.
He will chime here in probably. I would recommend this option.
-Hutz
Drew, it's unclear what you mean by "theatrical sounding", but it's certainly feasible to use two M22s or M60s for a center. They would be wired in parallel from the center channel output of your amplifier(no, that isn't the useless scheme referred to as biwiring, or "buywiring"), with two wires connected to the output terminals and one connected to each speaker. There's a probability that your 2600 could handle this lower impedance load without needing more amplification, but in any case it shouldn't be assumed that it can't.
I'd also wanted more from the VP150 (with M80 fronts) and attempted several configurations from 2 M22's, 2 M3's, VP100+VP150, and finally settle with the Vp150 set on top of an M3, forming a 'T'.
The M3 sits on the floor and is connected to one channel of a stereo amp with the VP150 connected to the other, sounds great but now I'm in the market for a single used M3 as a replacement for the rear surround.
How about two M60s (or maybe M80s) mounted horizontally with their tweeters adjacent to each other?
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...but now I'm in the market for a single used M3 as a replacement for the rear surround.
You can always buy 1 from the factory outlet....
Thanks everyone I appreciate the comments, now my only problem is choosing the right speakers. Would there be any special problems in having 4 m60's across the front as opposed to m60 mains and m22 centers?
One last question important question, if I were to buy an external amplifier...how does it work? Does the power of the amp(lets assume the LPA-1) add on to the power already being dished out by my V2600? Does an amp need any extra equipment to work? Can it even be hooked up with my reciever? Thanks in advance for the help!
Not sure you would want to lay down and m60 or 80, the designed horizontal pattern of the tweeter would then be vertical, probably not a good idea.
I don't see a problem with using a 22 as a center channel combined with a 60. You just don't want to mix brands. Are you using a screen, and if so how high off the ground, the 60's are pretty tall. If your using a tv, how would you be placing these in the center position?
If your using a seperate amp, you would by bypassing the receivers built in amp by using the pre outs on the receiver to the pre in on the amp. Why do you think you need an amp?
I've exhausted my powers of persuasion in the speaker collection dept. and anything less than an absolute steal is hard to swing.
Drew, the amp would be connected to the center channel pre-out. If budget is a concern, I was tempted to go with the M22's horizontally, tweeters out alignment, wired in parralel ( wiring one speaker to the other -/- and +/+ then to receiver) as mentioned earlier, but I quite enjoy them as mains in the bedroom.
I would be placing the M60's on each side of my TV, which would be around 41/2 feet apart. The mains would be around 12 feet apart, which is how the mains are now.
As for the amp, I just assumed I would need it! I'd be very happy to not have to purchase it, if you say it isnt necessary. How many watts would the m60's(as dual centers) be getting from my V2600(130Wx7)? Would it be sufficient? If it is I would be glad to hold off on that purchase. I just don't want to be skimping on the center channels.
Drew, the amount of watts that the M60s would draw in that use depends on the loudness of the material being played at a particular instant, the same as any other speakers. At a comfortably loud average level 1 watt, or a bit less, would be used; brief peaks would use much more of course, depending on how wide the dynamic range of the material being played was. As was said before, there's no good reason to assume a problem and spend money to solve it when it may never develop. Your 2600 is quite powerful as an amplifier.
drew,
I have 2 8ohm M2s hooked up in parallel on my RX-V659 Yammy, your 2600 will have no problems with the 4ohm load of the parallel M22s.
Will M60's also be a 4ohm load?
yes, dual M60s would also provide a 4ohm load. When wiring in parallel, the impedance is cut in half. So wiring 2 8ohm speakers together gives you 4 ohms.