I have a small room 20x17 feet floor space and 8.5 feet high. I already have a pair of M3ti speakers. I want to add QS8 and VP150, but is it too much for my room? Should I just go with QS4, and vp100 and save some money? Your advice will be appreciated, thanks!

Here's my first plan:
VP150 center
m3ti front's
QS8 Rear
Marantz SR7001
Hsu sub undecided

Second plan:

VP100 center
m3ti front's
QS4 Rear
Marantz SR7001
Hsu sub undecided

I'm not sure if I would consider that a "small" room. Are you going to be ordering from the factory outlet? This might help you decide which way to go. The 100 and 150 are fairly similar and depending how many listening seats you will have during movies, the 100 might be fine. The Qs8's are better overall, in my opinion, than the Qs4's. They have better bass response, and can handle more power.

I run M80s, a VP100, and QS4s in a room that size. Previously I had M50s. Bookshelves would do fine, as well, but hey, overkill is fun. The VP100 and QS4s should be fine.

I just assume its a small room, because I have my computer desk in there with pc, clothing cabinets, and a bed. Yea I'm certainly ordering from the Factory Outlet. The listening seat is just a computer chair, and a bed. vp100 or 150, I'm still undecided. Since you say Qs8 are better overall, then I have my mind set on the QS8's. I guess I should go for the VP150 just to make sure? Still have a week to change my mind.

Hey isn't the m80 an overkill for the rear and center? Just wondering. I'm planning to get QS8's for rear for certain.

Not if they're calibrated. Also having a receiver that can do different crossovers for the fronts, center, and surrounds helps a lot.

Does the Marantz SR7001 do that? Thats what I have.

I don't think so, but if you're going with bookshelves, you probably won't have to worry about it. My xovers are set to 60 Hz for the fronts (maybe 40?), 100 for the VP100, and 120 for the QS4s, mainly because I can. You'd probably be just fine with 80 or 90Hz all around.

Not overkill in my opinion and my room is 19x12x8. I cross the M80s over at 60 because sitting close it allows me to feel the punch of the bass coming from them which adds to the realism of explosions and such on screen.

Hi ka,

Following up on the previous posts, your room isn't small at all. It's 2890 cu. ft., which is significantly larger than the average living room (2100 cu. ft.).

That said, I could make a case for your using floorstanding towers, the M60s or M80s, as the main speakers in a room that size. To answer your question, you could certainly use your existing M3s as the front speakers with a subwoofer. The only limitation would be maximum SPL (loudness) compared to floorstanders, and a little less midrange detail that is intrinsic to the M3s overall balance compared to the M80s, M60s, or M22s. The advantage of using bookshelf size speakers with the subwoofer is the ease and versatility of placement compared to floorstanding mains.

I'd definitely get QS8s for that size of room. A VP100 is fine unless you'd be sitting farther back than 12 feet from the center channel speaker. The VP150 will deliver greater SPLs at greater listening distances.

Regards,
Alan

Hi Alan, I guess my room isn't small. I'm going to use my M3ti for fronts until I can afford floor standing speakers.

I will get QS8 when I make the purchase. I don't think I'll be sitting further than 12 feet from the center channel. I'll probably go for the VP100.

Is there any difference between the VP100 and the VP150? I just want to make sure. So I don't regret getting the lower model and say to myself, "I should of get the other one".

Only a slight difference in that the 150 plays a little lower than the 100. I find male voices to be better through the 150, but it is only a marginal difference. If I didn't own both and have a chance to hear them side by side I wouldn't be able to tell them apart.

Does anyone else have experience with two M22s (TWWWWT juxtaposition) as a center channel as opposed to the 100 or 150? I know our good friend Mojo highly recommends it in his "center shootout" and has privately to me. This will be my next purchase along with a pair of Qs8's.

Thanks guys

Hey Wheelz. How's it going ?

Hey buddy, it's going great. Still having problems but such is life. I've been able to get up and enjoy a couple movies recently!! Mojo, our room dimensions are fairly similar and I was wondering if you think my subwoofer placement would be best on my sidewall similar to yours? With my subwoofer in the corner it doesn't seem to pressurize the room equally, it's especially noticeable if you're in the left side of the room where the sub is. I know it's normal to get more base the closer you get to the subwoofer but it seems fairly localized. My friends are coming over tonight so maybe I can get them to help me out(the subwoofer crawl is too time-consuming when alcohol is around :-).

Thanks and all the best to you and your family

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I know I have set my M22s in that position and it did sound better than the VP150, it seemed to go deeper and had better dynamics thanks to the ports on the M22 other than that I really can't remember any other differences.

Try placing the sub 1/3 of the distance from your rear wall...basically behind your two-seater. Set the cross-over on your receiver to 60Hz, the 500's cross-over to 60Hz and flat. Set the phase switch to whichever position gives you max SPL at the sweet spot. Measure the distance from your sweet spot to the sub and add 50% to 75%. That should be the distance setting you dial into your pre/pro. That should hopefully dial in the phase properly.

If you have an SPL meter and test tones, you can dial things in a bit more scientifically. Match the sub's SPL to the M80s' SPL at the cross-over frequency. And to get the precise phase adjustment, tweak the distance setting until you have max SPL at your sweet spot with just the sub on.

Have fun!

Wheelz, are you guys sober? What's going on over there ?

Sober? You sent that message at 12:44 in the morning. We were easily at the bar by that time :-). I had girls all over me, it was really unbelievable (I guess there are perks that go along with being handicapped). Am I allowed to post pictures on here of me drinking my beer as it's wedged between my girl friends breasts amongst other things as long as there's no nudity? You guys will definitely get a kick out of it. Also, we were well on our way by 10:00 and then the wii came out so we didn't get to do anything with my sub. Thanks for the input though, I'll definitely try that. As far as placement 1/3 the distance from my back wall behind my two-seater, you did mean on the side wall like yours correct?

Thanks Mojo

Something tells me to stay away from answering this one. . .

Yes, that's right.

Feel free to post whatever photos you want as we all like beer and you can be sure that's all we'll look at .

Did I answer that one well ?

Pictures are always good. I like beer photos:)

Well done!

Well boys here they are. Enjoy :-). These are my friends. Unfortunately it doesn't show the other group of girls that I didn't even know. If you're ever coming to Peterborough let me know and we'll go out for a good time!


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Mmmmmmmmmmm...that looks like good beer .

Whoa Cam...I just saw the other photos. I think you'll have a lot of visitors .

Nice beer, Cam, and yes, it's always a good idea to cleanse the palate between tastes of different brews in order to make a more accurate taste comparison.