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Posted By: demetman few pics of gear - 11/06/08 04:59 AM
Hey guys, just wanted to post a few pics of my gear arriving and the install in progress. No dedicated HT just my living room.



Order arrived to NJ in perfect condition from the Axiom FO.


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QS8's wired in walland down to the basement.



This is my rigged Audyssey tripod

I'll post more later.
Posted By: SirQuack Re: few pics of gear - 11/06/08 05:07 AM
Very nice! Curious why your aiming the sub into the corner?
Posted By: St_PatGuy Re: few pics of gear - 11/06/08 05:12 AM
Your cat has a serious "WTF" look. \:D
Posted By: jakewash Re: few pics of gear - 11/06/08 06:39 AM
I'm with Randy on this one, Why is the sub facing the corner? Nice to see you went to the trouble of pulling the wires through the wall for the QS8s's makes for a very clean look, well done. I love the look of the M60s, makes me wish I kept them.
Posted By: CV Re: few pics of gear - 11/06/08 07:02 AM
 Originally Posted By: jakewash
Why is the sub facing the corner?


It's been a bad, bad sub doing low, low things.
Posted By: demetman Re: few pics of gear - 11/06/08 07:22 AM

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I fired the sub into the right rear wall corner hoping to achieve bass responce reflection from the wall. After doing the crawl, I found the sweet spot to be in my kitchen. That is where the strongest bass responce was present. From the pic you can see that the kitchen opens up on the right side of the M60. If I fired the sud foreward it would be aimed at the kitchen.

I have always used rear firing subwoofer enclosures in my vehicles and achieved excelent responce do to cabin gain effect. What would you guys do different with the sub placement so I can give it a try. Honestly, the sub lacked impact until I ran Audyssey. Now it sounds good, but I need to run Audyssey again with a lower gain setting. Thanks for the inquery.
Posted By: MarkSJohnson Re: few pics of gear - 11/06/08 11:50 AM
 Originally Posted By: CV

It's been a bad, bad sub doing low, low things.

Don't say stuff like that unless you're willing to come over here and clean the coffee I just sprayed all over my desk!
Posted By: EFalardeau Re: few pics of gear - 11/06/08 01:16 PM
\:D \:D \:D
Posted By: myrison Re: few pics of gear - 11/06/08 01:56 PM
Looks like Monoprice HDMI cables to me. Good call there. ;\)

Jason
Posted By: Lorenzo1000 Re: few pics of gear - 11/06/08 03:20 PM
 Originally Posted By: myrison
Looks like Monoprice HDMI cables to me. Good call there. ;\)

Jason


Those are the cables on the top left correct?

Monoprice has HDMI cables with braided covering on them?

Never seen these at Monoprice before?
Posted By: demetman Re: few pics of gear - 11/06/08 04:18 PM
I used monoprice 16awg wiring, HDMI cables and banana plugs which all work great. The HDMI with the braided covering is the better of the cables offered by monoprice $6.98 3ft. The only issue I have with the HDMI's is that they come loose from their connection when I pull equipment out to dust. Is their something that can secure the cables to their connections? That would be awesome. Also, I am curious of your opionions on the corner firing placement of the sub. I don't have a meter yet so I'm only going by ear at this point. Thanks.
Posted By: jakewash Re: few pics of gear - 11/06/08 04:36 PM
What is it like flipped 180deg. and firing into the couch? I have mine setup like that.
Posted By: myrison Re: few pics of gear - 11/06/08 05:49 PM
Lorenzo - yes, those are the same HDMI cables I have from Monoprice and they have a braided outer covering.

Demetrios - It's interesting they're coming out on you. I can only guess that maybe they're installed at an angle that leaves some pressure on the wires (pressure away from the port on the receiver/DVD player/etc.) that causes them to pop out easily when moving the equipment around. I've wrapped my cables around my rack so that the pressure point is on the rack as opposed to directly on the port where the cable plugs in.

There also is at least one company that makes a patented HDMI locking tab cable, but the last time I looked, they were incredibly expensive.

Jason
Posted By: Hansang Re: few pics of gear - 11/07/08 12:58 AM
 Originally Posted By: demetman
I used monoprice 16awg wiring, HDMI cables and banana plugs which all work great. The HDMI with the braided covering is the better of the cables offered by monoprice $6.98 3ft. The only issue I have with the HDMI's is that they come loose from their connection when I pull equipment out to dust. Is their something that can secure the cables to their connections? That would be awesome. Also, I am curious of your opionions on the corner firing placement of the sub. I don't have a meter yet so I'm only going by ear at this point. Thanks.



What I do is to put an eye bolt in the back of my rack. from there I use wire ties to secure the cables. This way, there is no strain on the cables.
Posted By: SRoode Re: few pics of gear - 11/07/08 01:02 AM
There are very few things as exciting as having a bunch of boxes of speakers ready to unpack and set-up! Looks great!
Posted By: SirQuack Re: few pics of gear - 11/07/08 01:48 AM
To have the best response in a room across all seating locations, you need multiple subs on opposite centered walls. The subs output is omnidirectional, so firing the woofer towards the corner does nothing. One sub can do a good job if placed correctly, so find the location that gives you the best overall performance in the primary seat. This could be anywhere in the room.

Placing the sub near one of your corners will excite all the nodes and give you better boomy sound, however, this is not always the best placement for the best FR.
Posted By: Murph Re: few pics of gear - 11/07/08 12:38 PM
Looking great and looks like you had a lot of fun there.

How did you, and others find those thick braided HDMI cables from Monoprice? I loved their speaker wire but this particular product I found to be so thick as to be very difficult to work with. Also, I had trouble when they were paired to a HDMI switch. Alone, they worked well. The switch with other cables worked well, but the switch and these cables together equaled sporadic missing audio and sometimes video.

I'm still using the switch but the cables are gathering dust. Just curious to know if I received a bad batch or if others have had similar experience. I should have returned them but the shipping was going to almost match the price I paid.

Sorry for the sidetrack, the room looks awesome. I like the cat picture too. Our cat had the same look for a while when I was putting our room together. Then he decided all loose speaker wire was his arch- enemy and we had several horrendous battles. Luckily, once it was sufficiently shackled between the wall and speakers on both ends, it decided it was sufficiently imprisoned and left it alone.
Posted By: myrison Re: few pics of gear - 11/07/08 02:41 PM
Murph - they've worked ok with me, but they are rather inflexible and took a little working with to get them in a position where they didn't want to pull themselves out of the equipment due to strain on the cable. (see my earlier posts above explaining in case you missed it). Functionally, though, they are flawless, no problems other than getting them bent in the right direction.
Posted By: demetman Re: few pics of gear - 11/21/08 05:59 AM
Hey guys, I finally finished the shelf/enclosure for my TV/VP150. I used 3/4" Oak sanded plywood. I am definatelly not a wood worker but I'm happy with the results! I glued and screwed the shelf and stained the wood with 3 coats of Ebony. I finished it with 2 coats of clear semi-gloss poly. Here are a few pics.


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Posted By: St_PatGuy Re: few pics of gear - 11/21/08 06:08 AM
Looks good, Demetrios! Take pride in the fact you built it yourself.






Hey, there's the cat with the WTF look again. . .
Posted By: demetman Re: few pics of gear - 11/21/08 06:20 AM
Yep, I call that little kitty "White Devil". Found him outside all dirty and famished a few weeks ago. I like cranking up the volume and finding a confused look on his face. He seems to really love the Axioms.
Posted By: Murph Re: few pics of gear - 11/21/08 12:25 PM
Looks great, serves to get your TV up to a good height, very nice.
Your only problem may be that your cat looks like it is trying to decide if its a new scratching post.
Posted By: myrison Re: few pics of gear - 11/21/08 01:08 PM
Nice work Demetrios. Looks very clean.
Posted By: TwistedAmbience Re: few pics of gear - 11/22/08 02:12 AM
VEry nice!!! Good job on that how does it sound
Posted By: DaveG Re: few pics of gear - 11/22/08 02:25 PM
Looks real nice Demetrios, our cats also seem to like it when I crank the volume.
Posted By: demetman Re: few pics of gear - 11/26/08 05:53 AM
 Originally Posted By: jakewash
What is it like flipped 180deg. and firing into the couch? I have mine setup like that.


I finally had the time to flip the sub 180deg and responce was not as favorable as corner firing set up. Seems like less output and boom. I didn't re-run Audyssey while sub was flipped though.

I did re-run Audyssey with a lower gain setting on the sub and achieved a -3dB setting. Depending on the source signal the sub produces a huge impact on the system. I know my neighbors have been pissed lately. Another thing I noticed was a dramatic difference of improved SQ with the EQ turned off. Audyssey seemed to be good for speaker set up and distances. More fun later.
Posted By: MG3 Re: few pics of gear - 11/26/08 07:28 AM
Nice Set Up Demetrios...Is your display the XBR4? I love mine! We also use the same subwoofer cable ;\) Monoprice rocks
Posted By: 80'sMan Re: few pics of gear - 11/27/08 01:52 AM
Great job Demetrios. That system's gonna rock the neighbours for years to come!
Since your speakers, audio equipment, HDTV & it's stand (good job by the way) are black, have you considered painting the beechwood coloured cabinet black as well?
Posted By: demetman Re: few pics of gear - 11/27/08 05:01 AM
Thanks for the kind words everyone. This project has been a lot of fun and the expert advice from the forum is much appreciated. I couldn't be more happy with my first HT project. The sound of the M60's amaze me with music reproduction. Just like all other Axiom owners I'm listening to all my CD's in a different way.

MG3, yes I am using a 40" Sony XBR-4 which I am extremelly happy with. I also purchased a 5yr extended warranty for in home service after a 46" Toshiba plasma bit the dust one month after it's 1yr warranty.

80's Man, the beachwood stand is a cheapy from Ikea so I have no plans to paint it. I'm pretty sure my wife will be sending me to the basement with all my audio equipment when a child is planned. I'll grab a new stand for my equipment when that time comes. Is it possible to paint over laminated particle board?
Posted By: jakewash Re: few pics of gear - 11/27/08 10:04 AM
 Originally Posted By: demetman
Is it possible to paint over laminated particle board?
I beleive the Ikea products are a wood laminate, so a quick sanding and paint away.
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