EP350, 400 or 500

Posted by: quakemax

EP350, 400 or 500 - 12/03/12 02:05 PM

Hey everyone,

Not so long ago I finaly went ahead and ordered my first Axiom speaker package; On-wall M3, VP100 and QS4 as surround. I must say I am really impressed by how clear and powerfull this little system sounds in my relatively small room (14' X 13' X 8').

I decided to wait for the subwoofer, since I was not sure if I should go with the EP175 or something bigger.

Keep in my mind, this is a very well insulated little room (Roxul in every wall) and that I listen mostly to movies. (90% movies, 10% music (jazz, rock, alternalive))

I am looking to spend aroung 600-900$
Finaly, if it is of any use, my receiver is a Onkyo TX-NR616.

-Max
Posted by: CatBrat

Re: EP350, 400 or 500 - 12/03/12 02:10 PM

For your system, and room size, the EP350 gets my vote. I use mostly M22's and our rooms are about the same area wise. I use the EP350 and have been quite happy with it. From there, I would move to the EP500 as the next move up.
Posted by: tomtuttle

Re: EP350, 400 or 500 - 12/03/12 04:14 PM

Where do you live? Sometimes - for US residents - there are other products you might consider.

But - if you're in Canada or simply want to keep your sub consistent with the rest of your system - I'd go for the EP350.

Like CatBrat said, the EP500 is really the next step up. The EP400 is a fine sub, but it is a specialized product that prioritizes smaller enclosure over higher performance.
Posted by: quakemax

Re: EP350, 400 or 500 - 12/03/12 07:05 PM

Thanks a lot for the inputs! Seems like the EP350 will do the trick! FYI, I live in Canada. I read that those US made subwoofer cost a small fortune to import up here.

Can't wait to put that gift certificate to good use laugh
Posted by: tomtuttle

Re: EP350, 400 or 500 - 12/03/12 07:07 PM

I think you'll be really happy with the EP350. If you decide you need "more", you can always work with Axiom to upgrade during the trial period.
Posted by: dakkon

Re: EP350, 400 or 500 - 12/03/12 07:36 PM

for what it's worth... i had 1 EP-600 in a 10x10 room... and it was awaome....!!!


so, i vote for the 500 since it's on your list...
Posted by: fredk

Re: EP350, 400 or 500 - 12/03/12 08:19 PM

Get as much subwoofer as you can afford. The EP500 reaches considerably lower than the EP350 and low is good, particularly for action movies where there can be significant content below 20Hz.
Posted by: quakemax

Re: EP350, 400 or 500 - 12/03/12 08:45 PM

To dakkon and fredk, I must say; the EP500 got fantastic review everywhere I look.

The fact that my mains are on-wall, wouldn't it make more sense to have a bigger subwoofer (one that goes lower)?
Posted by: dakkon

Re: EP350, 400 or 500 - 12/03/12 09:06 PM

Originally Posted By: quakemax
wouldn't it make more sense to have a bigger subwoofer (one that goes lower)?



My view is buy as much as you can afford.. You can never have too much bottom end.. In my opinion........
Posted by: JohnK

Re: EP350, 400 or 500 - 12/03/12 09:44 PM

Quake, welcome. Depending on your budget, either the EP350 or EP500 should be considered. I use the EP500, and the lower extension is significant on some of the movie material you watch. The factor of the mains being on-wall doesn't really create an even greater advantage, since any relative weakness of that design would be in the mid-bass around 70-80Hz, and any good sub covers that well.
Posted by: SirQuack

Re: EP350, 400 or 500 - 12/03/12 10:22 PM

I used to have a 500 which was a great sub, I later upgraded to the 600. I also have 2 350's up front in the room, the 600 is in the back corner. I know in Alans initial review of the 350 it held its own against the 500 in many respects.

The 350 is a great power house. For a few months I had one of my 350's upstairs in our living room which is about 15x20 with slight vaulted ceilings, and open into our kitchen/dining area. One 350 did a very good job in that space.

So, I suppose look at your budget and go from there...
Posted by: jakewash

Re: EP350, 400 or 500 - 12/03/12 10:22 PM

Another vote for the 500 if you can afford it. It is the same size as the 350 but it digs deeper and plays louder. I know you have a smallish room but you would be surprised at how loud a sub needs to go to create some effects properly.
Posted by: Hellcommute

Re: EP350, 400 or 500 - 12/03/12 10:24 PM

Originally Posted By: tomtuttle
Where do you live? Sometimes - for US residents - there are other products you might consider.

But - if you're in Canada...


FYI

SVS is available in canada direct from sonicboomaudio.com

official canadian distributor in Ontario so you can compare prices between products in Can $.

I hope I didn't break any rules doing this. No harm intended. smile
Posted by: Hellcommute

Re: EP350, 400 or 500 - 12/03/12 10:29 PM

I should note shipping is not included everywhere. A plus with Axiom, along with great after sales service.
Posted by: quakemax

Re: EP350, 400 or 500 - 12/04/12 01:31 AM

Originally Posted By: JohnK
Quake, welcome. Depending on your budget, either the EP350 or EP500 should be considered. I use the EP500, and the lower extension is significant on some of the movie material you watch. The factor of the mains being on-wall doesn't really create an even greater advantage, since any relative weakness of that design would be in the mid-bass around 70-80Hz, and any good sub covers that well.

Thanks JohnK, that is really helpful! I guess I didn't think of it that way.

Originally Posted By: Hellcommute

SVS is available in canada direct from sonicboomaudio.com

I read alot about this company. They seem to really know their stuff when it comes to subwoofer. The thing is, I already got a gift certificate which brings the EP500 right in my budget. Plus, the service/warranty/return policy with Axiom is next to none in my opinion.
Posted by: Murph

Re: EP350, 400 or 500 - 12/04/12 08:13 AM

Also a vote for the EP500. Nothing is more satisfying than feeling Hulk Smash instead of just hearing it.

Also, out of curiosity I just checked the sonicboomaudio site. Absolutely nothing against SVS subs but there does not appear to be an avenue for cost savings at their advertised prices for equivalent models.
Posted by: jakewash

Re: EP350, 400 or 500 - 12/04/12 10:08 PM

I think the best bang for the buck from SVS is the new PB12-nsd, new DSP amp, which keeps it flat and capable of reasonably high SPL. I think with shipping it works out to be a little less than the EP500.
Posted by: quakemax

Re: EP350, 400 or 500 - 12/04/12 11:31 PM

Originally Posted By: jakewash
I think the best bang for the buck from SVS is the new PB12-nsd, new DSP amp, which keeps it flat and capable of reasonably high SPL. I think with shipping it works out to be a little less than the EP500.


the PB12-nsd was indeed the one I was looking into. But WAF is pushing me towards the EP500.
Posted by: CatBrat

Re: EP350, 400 or 500 - 12/05/12 08:26 AM

One other thing I did was order my ep350 in a custom vinyl (cinnamon beech) and I'm glad I did.
Posted by: Murph

Re: EP350, 400 or 500 - 12/05/12 01:38 PM

But Tigers Hate Cinnamon.
Posted by: Nachosgrande

Re: EP350, 400 or 500 - 12/05/12 03:38 PM

cinnamon beech rocks....with the sienna grills
Posted by: Hellcommute

Re: EP350, 400 or 500 - 12/05/12 06:34 PM

Originally Posted By: Murph
But Tigers Hate Cinnamon.


LFMFAO!!! laugh
Posted by: quakemax

Re: EP350, 400 or 500 - 01/20/13 03:26 PM

Just wanna give you guys a quick update...
Right after Christmas I decided to go forward with the EP500. I received it last week (had some manufacturing delay on the amplifier).

First word that comes to my mind is: wow! The addition of the EP500 really changed everything in my room. I feel like my mains are even playing better (must have something to do with the crossover setting). We watched Quantum of Solace last night and at one point my wife told me: The house is shaking!! Do you feel it?! What an awesome experience that was.

Thanks to all of you guys for your good advice, I can't be more happy with my sound system. laugh
Posted by: fredk

Re: EP350, 400 or 500 - 01/20/13 04:51 PM

Excellent!
Posted by: CatBrat

Re: EP350, 400 or 500 - 01/20/13 06:23 PM

Does homeowner insurance cover subwoofer damage?
Posted by: SirQuack

Re: EP350, 400 or 500 - 01/20/13 07:41 PM

Just wait until you tweak it just right, it will get even better. smile
Posted by: Murph

Re: EP350, 400 or 500 - 01/21/13 07:45 AM

Glad to hear you are shaking up Montreal with it. Were you watching a movie Saturday night? Can I blame the Habs loss against the Leafs on your subsonic rumblings???
Posted by: J. B.

Re: EP350, 400 or 500 - 01/21/13 11:58 AM

the answer to this question by Murph should be along that of Hugolin in the movie Jean de Florette:
"it's not me that's crying, it's my eyes."
Posted by: fredk

Re: EP350, 400 or 500 - 01/21/13 03:08 PM

Originally Posted By: Murph
Glad to hear you are shaking up Montreal with it. Were you watching a movie Saturday night? Can I blame the Habs loss against the Leafs on your subsonic rumblings???

Too funny! No matter how much the Leafs suck, they can still beat their arch rival. How do they market this, battle for the bottom?
Posted by: quakemax

Re: EP350, 400 or 500 - 01/21/13 07:43 PM

Originally Posted By: Murph
Glad to hear you are shaking up Montreal with it. Were you watching a movie Saturday night? Can I blame the Habs loss against the Leafs on your subsonic rumblings???


Haha! I was planning on watching the game, but I got called back to work. I guess I didn't lose much. (pun intended)

Talking about fine tuning. I ran audyssey last night and my L and R came out at 40Hz, my surround at 60Hz and my center at 80Hz. I figured I should put the subwoofer crossover at 80Hz. Is that right?