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Posted By: ereed Mounting QS8s....need help! - 07/21/16 01:18 AM
Hello, just bought refurbished QS8s version 2 on the site for good price. I remembered it used to have T brackets for wall mounting but I received 2 small brackets. Looks like T bracket but 2 end pieces and not one full piece. WTF?! Now this makes installation much harder since I have to measure it to make sure its perfect instead of one piece like T bracket. Any pointers or how to do 2 little brackets mounting on wall as far as easy template? Why did they do this and not do T bracket? Backward design in my opinion. I was hoping to mount it and place the speaker and be done quickly but now its a pain in the butt and taking forever! Can anyone confirm what brackets you guys got for the V2s or even the new V4 series? Any easy tips before I mount hoes would be nice! Another thing with T brackets you find one stud and mount it....but with wide of the dual brackets you can't get 2 studs in. What were they thinking!
Posted By: Gr8_White_North Re: Mounting QS8s....need help! - 07/21/16 02:00 AM
Hi, can you post some pics. I have the V4's and they have the speaker connections built into the mount. I just figured out where I wanted them made a few measurements and used a lever ,inserted a couple of drywall anchors and bob's your uncle. Took like 15 mins all told. I have mounted these speakers and a number of different heights on the wall and my favorite is just forward of my seating position and about 6" from the ceiling. Definitely do some testing before you settle on a spot. I have V2 QS4s with the T bracket so I don't know what mounts you are referring to.
Posted By: ereed Re: Mounting QS8s....need help! - 07/21/16 02:45 PM
Since V2 are no longer made they no longer make the T brackets I'm told. The alternative is 2 metal pieces, just like the 2 metal pieces on back of V2 QS8. Problem is you can't mount 2 pieces on studs, but with T bracket you can. Not sure why they would no longer make it or keep it in stock. Oh well, I will figure it out and take some pics later.
Posted By: Stereoguy99 Re: Mounting QS8s....need help! - 07/21/16 03:55 PM
Hi Ereed: I've recently bought QS8's Ver 2 also simply bought the "full Metal Brackets from Axiom to mount the speakers on my walls...hope this helps out!!!
Posted By: ereed Re: Mounting QS8s....need help! - 07/21/16 06:56 PM
So I'm assuming your V2 was refurbished and did not come with T brackets also and it was just pieces same as brackets of rear of speaker? I didn't want to purchase $90 for pair of full metal brackets when it was unnecessary the first place since I wanted it flushed mounted in living room.
Posted By: ereed Re: Mounting QS8s....need help! - 07/21/16 07:25 PM
Not sure how to post a pic on here. You know on your QS8s the metal brackets thats attached to speaker. Well imagine another set of the same metal brackets. Just like T bracket without the middle center piece. Debbie said they no longer stock T brackets since V4 uses different ones so the ones they gave me was an alternative. I tried posting a pic but its asking for website. Can you just copy a pic and post it on here from your PC or phone?
Posted By: ereed Re: Mounting QS8s....need help! - 07/21/16 08:41 PM
[img]http://www.avsforum.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1558225&d=1469133236[/img]

There is the brackets on the left of speaker the supplied me. Just like T bracket without middle piece.
Posted By: ereed Re: Mounting QS8s....need help! - 07/21/16 09:33 PM
I finally decided to order the full metal bracket so I can just mount it once on the studs. I guess I can live with it sticking out few inches from wall and spend little money and rather be safe and make install easier. I do realized these tilt and swivel but they also can be straight as well? Seems every picture I've seen they are tilted down?
Posted By: Stereoguy99 Re: Mounting QS8s....need help! - 07/21/16 09:39 PM
Hi: That is why I bought the metal brackets....use .75 screws with the "Full Bracket" any longer I believe will damage the speaker also at 1st you'll have to give it a real hard twist to dissemble the bracket to do the mounting properly(at least mine needed a twist)

that is what my QS8's look like too!
Posted By: MMM Re: Mounting QS8s....need help! - 07/22/16 09:49 AM
and that is why you can buy these



you dont need to screw into a stud. The weight of the speakers are not that much. I used these with my QS8 as the perfect placement was not next to a stud
Posted By: ereed Re: Mounting QS8s....need help! - 07/22/16 03:14 PM
Yes, I may go that route and use the plastic wall anchors. I did order the full metal bracket as well. Good to know I can use it with other speakers as well. I will then decide which way to go with it. Here are few pics. First link shows my current 3.1 setup. Other 2 pics shows the rear wall where it will go. This will be 5.1 setup only. The QS8s I planned were gonna be mounted on rear wall where couch is. Notice there is only one side wall since its an open floor plan. Wall behind couch is 10 feet wide and 9 feet ceilings so should I mount them at ends of the wall? I was planning on mounting them 60 inches off the floor so the tweeter is 2 feet higher than my ears. While sitting on couch the ears are 26 inches from the back wall. So 7 to 9 feet apart and 60 inches from the floor is good idea? Any other welcome suggestions. Or should I post this in another thread? Here are pics! By the way in case anyone is wondering the front mains are spaced out about 9 feet and my ears to the mains are about 13 feet apart.

[img]http://www.avsforum.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1558241&d=1469133962[/img]

[img]http://www.avsforum.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1558249&d=1469133978[/img]

http://www.avsforum.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1558257&d=1469133993
Posted By: Gr8_White_North Re: Mounting QS8s....need help! - 07/22/16 11:55 PM
Everything is a compromise it seems unless you can swing a dedicated space. With a 5.1 the surrounds should be to your left and right and slightly ahead of the seating position. For my ears I have found that I like the 8's close to the ceiling but you have high ceiling so it may take some trial and error. I would suggest find a way to set them up temporarily at different heights until you find the sweet spot. I found myself that having them too low that I could pinpoint their location too easily. It really sux when you screw those anchors in and then decide to move your mounts the holes are ugly. Keep us posted on your progress.

Oh and I really like the stand in the second picture , where did you get it if you don't mind my asking.
Posted By: ereed Re: Mounting QS8s....need help! - 07/23/16 04:08 AM
The stand? Its a console table where I keep my whiskey. smile I bought it from someone on Craigslist and had matching coffee table for a good price.

Yes, this will be 5.1 only since its an open room layout (for now). Wife wants to keep it modern and minimalist. The 3.1 sounds so good and people think I have surrounds already. ha ha Since this is more of living room theater I'm keep it minimalist til we move to a bigger house in few years and will do full dedicated HT room. I'm thinking with the rears on the rear wall at 60 inches off the floor is high enough without being too high From the sweet spot the surrounds will be 3 feet apart from my ears and only 18 inches higher than top of my head. While I could possibly do 7.1 I would need stands to put surrounds on the sides and then slide the stands to behind couch when not in use. I think it will sound better than my 3.1 and hear some surround sound at least. And will also be getting room treatments for the rear wall and side wall for first reflection points. While I am 2 feet away from the wall I think 7.1 may not work unless I move the couch another foot or two from the wall, thats why I was thinking to stick with 5.1? Just waiting on my full metal brackets to arrive so I can mount them. Also my speaker will should be here tomorrow that I ordered from Amazon. One question...I want the rears spread out at the very ends of the rear wall correct?
Posted By: ereed Re: Mounting QS8s....need help! - 07/25/16 03:21 PM
So based on the pictures I provided you think I"m better off mounting it on wall about 120 degrees behind ears about 60 inches off floor or have it on axiom qs8 stands 90 degrees beside the couch slightly above ear level which I believe will be 42 inches from floor?
Posted By: Gr8_White_North Re: Mounting QS8s....need help! - 07/26/16 02:09 AM
The only way to really know is to find a way to set them up temporarily. Use a step ladder or a coffee table with books stacked up etc. When sitting on the couch the speakers should be to your left and right, I see you have a pass through to the kitchen which seems to be your limiting factor. Can you mount the speaker above the opening or put the mount inside the upper part of the opening.
Posted By: ereed Re: Mounting QS8s....need help! - 07/26/16 03:12 AM
I was thinking about putting the speaker on the sides of the couch but at the right wall and left wall 90 degrees. The opening hallway between kitchen and living room is 4 feet wide and only obstacle is speaker wire line form couch to short wall (kitchen side) which I don't mind as long as I step over it. LOL If thats the case the speaker at 90 degrees on stands will be 76 inches apart from both sides of MLP and 42 inches from floor. Just trying to figure out if its worth having it on stands at 90 degrees is an improvement over rear wall mounting at 120 degrees and mounting 2 to 3 feet higher. If I do stand mounting sides then I could do rears and do 7.1 but how much space do I need behind my ears to the wall. Right now the wall to my ears is 24 inches (2 feet). I can move the couch about another foot or two max and be ok with the wife if that improves anything. Will post more pics later of other side of room.
Posted By: Gr8_White_North Re: Mounting QS8s....need help! - 07/26/16 05:23 PM
Well its a tough room to work with for sure. I am fortunate as I bought a house with a room that is only for HT. As far as placement goes I can only suggest what has worked well for me and you will have to translate that to your own space. Something that bothered me for a long time was the fact that my LCR just disappear but the surrounds were easily located and just didn't blend cohesively. In my case having them up higher than I would have thought necessary solved these issues. The receiver can adjust for these differences when you run your calibration. When I moved my QS4's to the bedroom I had no choice but to put the speakers up high, one had to be above the closet door and as it turns out that was a good place for them. This is whre the rubber meets the road, just get them up and see what works.
Posted By: ereed Re: Mounting QS8s....need help! - 07/26/16 05:39 PM
While not to confuse about surround mounting issues as the original thread title with placement options I decided to start new thread for placement options. LOL Yeah, it would be really nice to try different settings without mounting first but I don't see how to do that since i don't have a ladder high enough to try. Just wanted general ideas. I doubt I would know the difference since I'm not sure how its SUPPOSED to sound since this is my first 5.1 system. Had 3.1 setup for 10 years and sounded good as always and now decided to go with surrounds. I feel I'm wasting features of my 5 channel rotel amp and 7.1 rotel pre pro so thats why I bought QS8s first place to see if I can get improvement or what I've been missing this whole 10 years with very good 3.1 system. Not doing atmos anytime soom unless I get dedicated HT space and I am also not even using all the features of my current pre pro as it is since it requres more speakers. lol
Posted By: Gr8_White_North Re: Mounting QS8s....need help! - 07/26/16 07:36 PM
I felt the same way when I started out. My kid got a cheap 5.1 HTIB for Christmas from his mom and that lasted about a month and igot the bug and its been non stop since LOL. For reference I was a real 2 channel nut with lots of equipment then kids happened then I got hooked on HT and man it get expensive. Anyway what I have found is that you should not be able to detect the source of the sound and when you achieve that your have reach nirvana. I have an emotiva processor and their is an upgrade coming for atmos which I am eager to try and hope like hell it delivers since it will be a huge expense. Atmos should be the next step in filling in any voids and lessening the ability to pinpoint the speakers. Baby steps man LOL.
Posted By: ereed Re: Mounting QS8s....need help! - 08/01/16 07:08 PM
Here is what I ended up doing with my QS8s. This was the only way I could do it at 90 degrees of MLP without spending $300 on stands or make holes in the walls with my non-ideal layout. The sound is fantastic! Even though I had a good 3.1 setup its nice to get the ambient sounds. Now just need to treat the room/walls. lol

http://s1070.photobucket.com/user/ereed28214/media/20160731_152855_zps0ulyddxa.jpg.html
Posted By: bridgman Re: Mounting QS8s....need help! - 08/01/16 10:13 PM
Looks good.
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