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Posted By: jinhan Is the Axiom EP-500 idiot proof? - 12/01/05 04:17 PM
I was listening to my Axiom EP500 before I went into work. I was watching Star Wars: Attack of the Clones and noted that the bass was unsually pronounced in the THX opening sequence. During the scrolling prologue, bass agained very prominent. Chalk it up to my inexperience, but I kept watching, and when the Queen ship came, I thought my entire house was about to crumble. The bass was so loud, I thought my head was going to explode.

I checked the subwoofer, and it turns out that somebody in my household (don't know who), cranked the volume up several notches above where I had calibrated it. I quickly recalibrated the sub, reducing the volume by 4-5 notches. So far things sound okay, but I haven't put my subwoofer through the entire gambit of listening tests.

My question is, what is the likelihood that I damaged my sub? Obviously, there is no major damage, but are there any subtle signs that I should be hearing or looking for?

Thanks guys.
Posted By: NEW2AXIOM Re: Is the Axiom EP-500 idiot proof? - 12/01/05 04:20 PM
I can say with 100% certainty that your sub is fine. I have watched that exact scene many times with the sub blasting. The EP500 is pretty much unbreakable.
Posted By: jinhan Re: Is the Axiom EP-500 idiot proof? - 12/01/05 04:28 PM
Whew, that makes me feel a lot better. Right now I have the volume knob set at about 6 o'clock. I think it it was at about 11 o'clock before.
Posted By: bugbitten Re: Is the Axiom EP-500 idiot proof? - 12/01/05 04:37 PM
Wow! You might need to check the foundations but I'm sure the 500 is OK.


Posted By: RickF Re: Is the Axiom EP-500 idiot proof? - 12/01/05 04:42 PM
Around 6 o'clock the normal setting for you 500 owners?

Posted By: bugbitten Re: Is the Axiom EP-500 idiot proof? - 12/01/05 04:44 PM
7:30 to 8 here. WAF!


Posted By: jinhan Re: Is the Axiom EP-500 idiot proof? - 12/01/05 04:54 PM
Some users have their volume at 9 o'clock...

I guess that the EP500 setting depend on the amplifier subwoofer setting and how hot they like to run their subwoofer. My amp subwoofer setting is at -5, and I like to keep things flat.
Posted By: SirQuack Re: Is the Axiom EP-500 idiot proof? - 12/01/05 05:00 PM
The 500 and 600 can play louder than a full orchestra in Carnegie Hell with no distortion, your fine.
Posted By: MarkSJohnson Re: Is the Axiom EP-500 idiot proof? - 12/01/05 05:52 PM
My understanding of the 500s' and 600s' DSP-driven design is that they won't allow themselves to be overdriven.

That's not a challenge to you bassheads, and I could be wrong, so {{disclaimer}}, {{disclaimer}}, {{disclaimer}}.
Posted By: craigsub Re: Is the Axiom EP-500 idiot proof? - 12/01/05 06:22 PM
I just got back from a biz trip, saw the headline of this article, and my first thought was "Idiot proof ? Hell, It survived ME ! ..." ...


Posted By: dllewel Re: Is the Axiom EP-500 idiot proof? - 12/01/05 07:36 PM
That's saying a lot! I've heard how you like to abuse, er I mean "test" subs.
Posted By: richeydog Re: Is the Axiom EP-500 idiot proof? - 12/01/05 07:46 PM
In reply to:

I've heard how you like to abuse, er I mean "test" subs.




Craig is in the clear on this one. At least I think he is. It's BigJohn you gotta worry about. Those pink grills and rambunctious port abuse is rather frightning. hehe
Posted By: bridgman Re: Is the Axiom EP-500 idiot proof? - 12/01/05 07:46 PM
I have to think the DSP logic would make the EP500/600 much more "idiot proof" than most subs.
Posted By: F107plus5 Re: Is the Axiom EP-500 idiot proof? - 12/01/05 08:24 PM
Getting back for a moment to one of the opening questions; the funky bass at the THX intro and the scrolling prolog.....

....Yup....I noticed that it wasen't a standard sound either. There is indeed something malmixed during those parts of the flick on my copy of the DVD as well

Back before I put(Axiom)spikes on the bottom of my home cobbled sub, it would attempt to walk into the wall during those unusual scenes!







...as well as others.....
Posted By: cgrface Re: Is the Axiom EP-500 idiot proof? - 12/02/05 02:16 AM
I e-mailed Alan Loft on this very subject, i.e. overdriving the ep600 (in my case)to the point of self destruction since I am just learning the limits of this fine piece. I would hate to learn retrospectively how not to set it up. Alan advised me that I could set the gain to the eleven oclock position without fear of damage. That the dsp would limit the output when it sensed distortion.

I have used this setting for several weeks now without sign of damage.
Posted By: MarkSJohnson Re: Is the Axiom EP-500 idiot proof? - 12/02/05 03:02 AM
In reply to:

Alan advised me that I could set the gain to the eleven oclock position without fear of damage. I have used this setting for several weeks now without sign of damage.




That explains that cracks in the sidewalk in front of my house!
Posted By: RickF Re: Is the Axiom EP-500 idiot proof? - 12/02/05 03:57 AM
>>Alan advised me that I could set the gain to the eleven oclock position without fear of damage. That the dsp would limit the output when it sensed distortion.

I have used this setting for several weeks now without sign of damage.<<

Wow, I've never had my 600 above the 8-9 o'clock position and I most often find myself turning the dial to just a quarter up from nada on the volume. I'll be moving it into a larger room within the next few weeks so maybe then we'll see if it needs to have a little more volume.
Posted By: alan Re: Is the Axiom EP-500 idiot proof? - 12/02/05 02:32 PM
Hi,

The DSP in the EP500 and 600 is programmed with data on the maximum voice-coil excursion permitted before damage would occur as that relates to power output and distortion. Hence it will produce its maximum output at our predetermined levels of distortion and go no louder, no matter how much you crank up the level. So you can't damage it by overdriving it.

Regards,
Posted By: dllewel Re: Is the Axiom EP-500 idiot proof? - 12/02/05 11:56 PM
Thanks for that Alan! Now I won't worry so much when I see War of the Worlds the first time.
Posted By: F107plus5 Re: Is the Axiom EP-500 idiot proof? - 12/03/05 12:26 AM
I was gettin' to feelin' pretty low....what with seein' all you 500 and 600 owners runnin' your subs down around 8,9,10,11:00 positions when I've been runnin' my sub at 11:00 all along.

Then I looked at the photos' of the 500 and 600 amps(very stylish and attractive, by the way)and I realize that while my amp has the gain dialed from 6:30 to 5:00, youse guys run .......

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