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Posted By: NEW2AXIOM Upgrading Receiver... - 12/04/05 02:05 AM
I currently have a Denon 885S and am going to be upgrading to the new Denon AVR-3806. I figure it worth it to me because my Cable Box, DVD player, and TV all support HDMI so I might aswell use the uncompressed, all-digital audio/video interface that I have payed for with my componets.

Now my question is this. Are there a difference in quility when it comes to HDMI cables like there is with componet cables? If so, where is a good place online to buy some High Quility HDMI cables?

Thanks guys
Posted By: varkha Re: Upgrading Receiver... - 12/04/05 02:07 AM
HDMI is a digital cable so I guess as long as it works it works all the same. I would go for the cheapest one that looks OK - no point to pay extra.
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Posted By: NEW2AXIOM Re: Upgrading Receiver... - 12/04/05 02:12 AM
Well the only reason I would pay extra is if there is a difference in quility. But if there all the same that I will stick with the cheapest I can find.
Posted By: Sutter Cane Re: Upgrading Receiver... - 12/04/05 04:16 AM
Try Ram Electronics bud.
http://www.ramelectronics.net/html/DVI-hdmi_cables.html



Sutter
Posted By: JohnK Re: Upgrading Receiver... - 12/04/05 04:55 AM
New, the 3806 should be excellent. As far as the cables go, it isn't clear what the basis for the comment about a difference in component cable quality is, since it's difficult to in fact find any. Reasonably priced HDMI cables are available, for example here. One point is that for very long runs(e.g. over 15')24ga is often suggested rather than one of the thinner cables, but this might not apply to your use.
Posted By: SirQuack Re: Upgrading Receiver... - 12/04/05 05:49 AM
www.monoprice.com

That is where I got my 25ft Component and 25ft HDMI/DVI for my current setup.. Prices are unbelievable, as is the quality, boy that sounds like Axiom...
Posted By: NEW2AXIOM Re: Upgrading Receiver... - 12/04/05 06:14 AM
What is with the HDMI/DVi cables? Dont i just need an HDMI to HDMI cable? What is the DVI part of the cable for? Im lost.
Posted By: Sutter Cane Re: Upgrading Receiver... - 12/04/05 06:23 AM
Those are for if one of your units has HDMI connections but the unit your connecting it to has DVI. Like if you were connecting your dvd player to your receiver and your dvd player had HDMI connections but your receiver only had DVI, you'd use the HDMI/DVI cables.

Probably didn't explain that as well as I could of, if I didn't let me know and I'll try to better next time.


Sutter
Posted By: NEW2AXIOM Re: Upgrading Receiver... - 12/04/05 06:38 AM
nope, you explained it just fine. thanks!
Posted By: TNTguy Re: Upgrading Receiver... - 12/04/05 07:59 AM
DVI is video only while HDMI includes the audio signal as well.
Posted By: JohnK Re: Upgrading Receiver... - 12/04/05 08:11 AM
Yes, as Sut explained, what you use depends on the connections available on your equipment. The wire itself is exactly the same for DVI and HDMI; the difference is whether both ends have a DVI or HDMI connector, or there's one of each.

A little more on your "quality" concern. HDMI is unfortunately creating yet another opportunity to sell pieces of wire at rip-off prices. Here's a review from the source Randy linked and here's another price comment. The link there to Better Cables has good info, although they don't happen to mention that equal cabling is available for about a tenth of what they charge for their "Display Magic".
Posted By: RickF Re: Upgrading Receiver... - 12/04/05 08:35 AM
JohnK, in the Link on your first reply can you tell me what length the HDMI-HDMI (Part#01772) cable on the very last item of the page is? It's probably too late in the night, but for some reason I'm not seeing the length.

Also not to hijack the thread but I'm looking at maybe installing a couple of HDMI/HDMI cables of about 45' for the room I'm working on. Is this too long of a run? Also I've read about needing an extender/repeater for longer runs with the HDMI cables, true?

Edit: Upon further review I now see the length is probably 15(M) meters or about 45 ft. Wow, that is a good price!
Posted By: JohnK Re: Upgrading Receiver... - 12/04/05 09:03 AM
Yeah Rick, about 49 feet. It's said that with the equipment being of good quality a 24ga HDMI connection is good for at least 50 feet.
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