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Posted By: blown302 Front Projection - 02/12/06 08:17 PM
I was wondering of the costs to set up a front projection screen compared to a DLP?

Anybody with any experience?
Posted By: FordPrefect Re: Front Projection - 02/12/06 08:37 PM
No idea, but I'm sure a few people will be able to help you.

Do you own a blown 302?
Posted By: Tharkun Re: Front Projection - 02/12/06 08:44 PM
Could you give us a bit more info, such as would it be an LCD or DLP projector, what resoulution you desire, size of screen ?
The link below is a good starting point for having an idea as to what a system would cost.

LINK
Posted By: dakkon mu - 02/13/06 12:35 AM
i have a benq pb6200, that displays 1080p you can buy it now for about 900$ i paid 1300$...


as for a screen, i have a 135" screen that i paid 300$ for on ebay.

for a screen your gona look at 300-500" for a good one, depending on the size and style you want, you could do a DYI screen, there are pain products out that you can paint directly onto the wall, and this works great for a screen solution, and they come with a black paint to use as a border around the screen, the nice thing about this is, it is much cheeper, and you can make it any specific size you want, you dont have to conform to what some manufacture wants the size to be... or you could build your own screen, these are semi cheep to build also. maby 100$ or so? go over to
dyi screen forum over at avs
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/forumdisplay.php?f=110


hope this helps..
Posted By: SirQuack Re: Front Projection - 02/13/06 02:47 AM
Ummmm Front projectors come in LCD or DLP and other technologies, not sure I understand your question? Since I moved to my Sanyo Z2 LCD WXGA, I'll never go back to a projection TV.


Posted By: blown302 Re: Front Projection - 02/13/06 03:10 AM
Sorry I didn't think about that. By DLP I meant a regular 52" TV with DLP technology and a front projection as a projector that you could hang on you ceiling.

How does it look compared to the TV version. Obviously It will be bigger but how is the picture on a DVD.

Most of the things I watch are on regular TV and DVD's, Rarely HDTV. Thanks for the link
Posted By: SirQuack Re: Front Projection - 02/13/06 03:42 AM
Now that I have a 51" x 120" 2.35 screen, I'll never go back to a large TV. Having your own Theater is pretty cool. And yes, the picture can be as good or better in my opinion. HD is jaw dropping and most think it rivals plasmas that visit my place.

You need to understand there are many differant types of projectors, technologies, resolutions, etc... just as there are regular tv's. In addition, there are good DVD players and bad ones, and 720p/1080i upconverting players. I have a Panny S97S HDMI player that can scale to 720p/1080i over HDMI/DVI cables. This mated with my Z2, which has a native 720 resolution makes DVD's look almost HD like. A lot depends on the equipment your using.

http://www.projectorcentral.com is the place I started years ago, it has great articles explaing the various technologies and how they compare to today's regular projection/DLP/LCD tv sets.

One thing that is nice, is that if I do have any warranty issues, it is a lot easier to send in a 10lb unit for 3day turnaround, than to get some huge tv repaired.

Star Wars Episode II taken with my crappy 5 yr old digital camera and no tripod, 51" x 120" 2.35 ratio cinemascope screen.


Posted By: Wid Re: Front Projection - 02/13/06 03:46 AM
In reply to:

just as there are rebular tv's




Is rebular a new tv technology?
Posted By: SirQuack Re: Front Projection - 02/13/06 03:49 AM
What the heck are you drinking tonight Wid?
Posted By: Wid Re: Front Projection - 02/13/06 03:51 AM

Hey the wid don't indulge in mind altering substances.
Posted By: DallasAxiom Re: Front Projection - 02/13/06 06:41 AM
With front projection, HD will be good...no question about that. With DVD, you have to work harder and make sure you have a GREAT DVD player - because as you blow up a low res picture (DVD), you see more of the flaws.

I would recommend matching a Projector with an HTPC (Home Theater PC) connected through DVI - the best way for a sharpest picture is 1-to-1 pixel matching, where your output from the source(DVD player) matches the native resolution of the projector.... with an HTPC and some DVD players you can do custom resolutions.

If you have a powerful HTPC, you can sample hi-def DVD with WMV-HD... it is dreamy!
Posted By: SirQuack Re: Front Projection - 02/13/06 05:22 PM
I agree Dallas, I plan to build a new HTPC asap, and will be using Theatertek software DVD which you can scale to match the projector as you mentioned below.

Dallas, I would be interested in finding out more about your seteup, you can PM me if you would like. One idea I have is to setup a Raid 5 environment to house music and ripped DVD's from my archive.

Randy

Posted By: DallasAxiom Re: Front Projection - 02/14/06 01:26 AM
My setup is really simple, just as described above. I don't use TheaterTek + ffdshow, because my computer's processor can't handle it. I just use PowerDVD 6, which already kicks my Oppo's butt - so your setup should be better. But I have seen the light! FP and HTPC is the way to go (for now anyway).

I even tried comparing Call of Duty 2 on my setup with computer vs the Xbox 360, and the computer is definitely sharper (slower though...but that's just my old processor)

Next in line is an HD tuner card, the MyHD 130...and it's Valentine's Day tomorrow - I should buy me something, cause there's no one else I love more than myself! lol

Good luck with your HTPC build. Are you gonna use Windows MCE 2005?
Posted By: SirQuack Re: Front Projection - 02/14/06 05:07 AM
I only plan to use Theatertek, no ffdshow. I agree with you on HTPC's performing better than DVD players, and that includes upconverting DVD players in today's market.

I also plan to incorporate a HDTV tuner card, wireless internet to my 802.11g setup in my home. So far I'm not planning on using MCE2005, I've been reading good things about XLobby as a front end, and best of all, it is free.
Posted By: nickbuol Re: Front Projection - 02/14/06 05:22 AM
In addition, the source DVD is a factor too. If you take a flick that was a crappy transfer to DVD, flaws may not show up on the stock 27" TV, but probably will on a 52" DLP TV, and definately will on a much larger front projection. It isn't the display, but is the input media. Now, if you take a well done transfer to DVD (or real HD signal), it will look great. Nothing like the real large screen.

I can put in a thumbs up for a good HTPC. I got to experience a home built (as opposed to the store bought Windows Media Edition PCs) HTPC a few weeks back, and it was pretty impressive. Some day, I may go that route, but for now, I have other projects I need to spend money on.

Oh, I have a Sanyo Z3 (last year's model) and a nice Carada screen and I love it.
Posted By: GregM Re: Front Projection - 02/14/06 06:04 PM
As others have mentioned, when it comes to movie watching, size does matter.

I just ordered a new Sanyo Z4 and 106" Optoma Greywolf screen. I paid under $2,000 for all of it. I trust the Z4's scaler will do a good job with DVD material and I assure you this image will be far more impressive to watch than a 60" HD tv that costs twice as much.

I am also moving to digital cable so I can actually see HD for the first time in my life (apart from casually glancing at HD tv's at Best Buy). I don't quite know how I'll route the HD signal to my PJ but I'll get that sorted out in the next week.

If you are into movies go FP. You do need a somewhat light controlled room but that can be managed.

Greg
Posted By: littleb Re: Front Projection - 02/14/06 09:42 PM
He's trying, he's trying.
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