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Posted By: Max3 Good Rock recordings? - 06/03/08 11:49 PM
Well, having been through most of my rock library I can honestly say that the majority of it.....well....sucks. I know there is great sounding orchestral, vocal, jazz, soft rock and such but where are the good ROCK recordings. Understanding that 'raw' is a desired trait to many rock group recordings, I am wondering, is heavier music not meant to be heard with pristine quality? I have heard a few recordings, not my favorite mind you, that sound good. (i.e. Metallica's Load, Relient K's new album) Can anyone point me in the direction of some good rock recordings? I really like Melodic Death Metal (Dark Tranquility, Children Of Bodom, Kalmah, etc), Metal (Black Label Society, old Metallica, Pantera, Damage Plan) and even soft nu-metal/rock (Cold, Alter Bridge, Breaking Benjamin). Can anyone list any known good recordings in the vein of this music? Thanks in advance.

max
Posted By: JohnK Re: Good Rock recordings? - 06/04/08 02:44 AM
Max, I'd like to be helpful, but this is the only "Rock" recording that I'm familiar with.
Posted By: St_PatGuy Re: Good Rock recordings? - 06/04/08 02:48 AM
Here you go, John:

http://www.instantrimshot.com/
Posted By: pmbuko Re: Good Rock recordings? - 06/04/08 12:29 PM
I find it punny that John is not man-enough for rock.
Posted By: Murph Re: Good Rock recordings? - 06/04/08 01:00 PM
Most of my heavier metal is also recorded with very crappy sound.
Metallica, Master of Puppets seems to stand out but that's when they broke away a bit from the traditional that I think you enjoy more.

Moving even further away from your preference, their S&M DVD that they recorded with the San Fransisco Symphony is supposed to have exceptional sound quality, although we have never been able to convince JohnK to listen to it, even though it involves a symphony.

I recently really liked listening to DragonForce - Inhuman Rampage but I can't say the sound is demo quality.

I'll have to browse through the artist lists on my Squeezebox tonight to think of some others. I know there are more if I could think of them.

Edit:
Adding an afterthought. I have two versions of Masters of Puppets. The remastered one sounds way better than the original. Can't remember who did it but I know "Gold" is part of the title.
Posted By: Official Ninja Re: Good Rock recordings? - 06/04/08 01:37 PM
Hello. Give a listen to "The Dio Years" by Black Sabbath.
In particular, the song Heaven and Hell sounds to be an excellent recording. Plus a great song on top of that. :-)

Just want to add that there is a MVI release of this disc. It comes with an audio CD and a DVD with the music on it. The DVD sounds fantastic.

Posted By: pmbuko Re: Good Rock recordings? - 06/04/08 01:59 PM
I also have the gold Master of Puppets disc, and it is the best recording of older (better?) Metallica that you can find.
Posted By: turbo16v Re: Good Rock recordings? - 06/04/08 04:07 PM
This might be a funny one, but I always thought that Rammsteins Sehnsucht album had a very clear precise metal sound. The only problem is I have no idea what he is saying. Sounds great on my 80's
Posted By: pmbuko Re: Good Rock recordings? - 06/04/08 04:24 PM
du hast mich?
Posted By: terzaghi Re: Good Rock recordings? - 06/04/08 04:49 PM
remastered AC/DC may sound good.. At least that is what I'm told
Posted By: medic8r Re: Good Rock recordings? - 06/04/08 05:05 PM
It is not really in the genres that you mentioned, but Green Day's American Idiot is very well-recorded. It was one of the first things I listened to on my M80s.
Posted By: doormat Re: Good Rock recordings? - 06/04/08 06:32 PM
Have you read through the metal thread?

Metal
Posted By: Max3 Re: Good Rock recordings? - 06/04/08 11:13 PM
Thanks for the link doormat, I guess I'll just have to check around as most of what has been suggested here isn't quite what I was thinking. I do REALLY appreciate the comments, and I am definetly going to check out this 'gold' Master Of Puppets recording, yesssss. I'm excited for that. And actually, Green Day's American Idiot WAS very well recorded. I have been a fan since Dookie, and I have drifted from them since 'Nimrod' but I still own every single CD, even the B-side compilation 'Shenanigans.' More out of a sad attempt to remain 15 forever(in my mind), haha.

Anyways, I'll ask just for fun. has anyone heard any cd's from;
1. In Flames
2. Children Of Bodom
3. Kalmah
4. Strapping Young Lad
5. All That Remains
??

I'd like to know if any cd's sound good before buying one and being disappointed \:\( Anyways, thanks everyone.
Posted By: sonicfox Re: Good Rock recordings? - 06/05/08 02:53 AM
I don't listen to much metal, but for rock, I'd say my favorite quality rock recordings which I'm familiar with (and like the music as well) would be:

Nine Inch Nails-The Fragile
Yes-Magnification
Tool-Lateralus
Porcupine Tree-In Absentia, Deadwing, Fear of a Blank Planet plus the remasters of the earlier albums


Posted By: anthony11 Re: Good Rock recordings? - 06/05/08 02:57 PM
"Roundabout" from Yes, of course!


(A kewpie doll to whoever gets the reference first)
Posted By: anthony11 Re: Good Rock recordings? - 06/05/08 02:57 PM
 Originally Posted By: pmbuko
du hast mich?

gefragt!
Posted By: pmbuko Re: Good Rock recordings? - 06/05/08 03:31 PM
und ich hab nichts gesagt
Posted By: fredk Re: Good Rock recordings? - 06/05/08 04:16 PM
So, wissen wir alle nichts.
Posted By: jakewash Re: Good Rock recordings? - 06/05/08 05:50 PM
Does Axiom need to start a German section as well?
Posted By: pmbuko Re: Good Rock recordings? - 06/05/08 06:49 PM
Ich habe Deutsch gelernt, aber die hübschen Mädchen haben nicht gekommen.
Posted By: Murph Re: Good Rock recordings? - 06/09/08 05:43 PM
 Originally Posted By: pmbuko
du hast mich?


And your' not getting away either !!!
Posted By: fredk Re: Good Rock recordings? - 06/10/08 01:21 AM
Auf Deutsch bitte mein herr!
Posted By: pmbuko Re: Good Rock recordings? - 06/10/08 06:31 AM
Möchten Sie, mein Herr, vielleicht einen Stock in Ihrem Hintern haben?
Posted By: lucv13 Re: Good Rock recordings? - 06/10/08 06:33 AM
Ich spreche nicht Deutsches, Parlez vous Francais?
Posted By: pmbuko Re: Good Rock recordings? - 06/10/08 06:38 AM
Ich parlez kein Francais.
Posted By: lucv13 Re: Good Rock recordings? - 06/10/08 06:41 AM
LOL Dann schätze ich, dass wir auf englisch sprechen sollten
Posted By: pmbuko Re: Good Rock recordings? - 06/10/08 06:49 AM
How do you say touché in English? ;\)
Posted By: lucv13 Re: Good Rock recordings? - 06/10/08 06:56 AM
Hold on let me go back to that translator site.......
Posted By: fredk Re: Good Rock recordings? - 06/10/08 05:03 PM
 Originally Posted By: pmbuko
Möchten Sie, mein Herr, vielleicht einen Stock in Ihrem Hintern haben?

Danke nein. I hab schon ein. HG Cherry too!

Luc, will cerial box French do? I'm good at that.
Posted By: Official Ninja Re: Good Rock recordings? - 06/18/08 01:10 PM
I just picked up the Mobile Fidelity remaster of Megadeth's Coutdown to Extinction. Sounds really good to me. :-)
Posted By: pmbuko Re: Good Rock recordings? - 06/18/08 01:24 PM
sweet.
Posted By: terzaghi Re: Good Rock recordings? - 06/18/08 02:20 PM
that has to be the coolest smiley of all time
Posted By: medic8r Re: Good Rock recordings? - 06/18/08 02:30 PM
Yeah, Peter's carrying the torch for Jack, the king of the Smileys, as Jack doesn't come around as much any more since taking that job with that *cough* other forum.

Peter, looks like things have loosened up a lot for you since the big 10,000, as you've got 20 posts since then. Do you need that Kaopectate now?
Posted By: Rock_Head Re: Good Rock recordings? - 06/18/08 05:53 PM
You guy's are merciless
Posted By: prototype3a Re: Good Rock recordings? - 06/18/08 09:46 PM
Well, you said ReliantK so I'm gonna suggest Disciple, Project 86 (esp songs to burn your bridges by and And the rest will follow) and finally anything Chevelle. But that's probably just me.
Posted By: myrison Re: Good Rock recordings? - 06/22/08 01:56 AM
Thanks for the note... Liked the original, looking forward to the remaster. \:\)
Posted By: michael_d Re: Good Rock recordings? - 06/30/08 04:09 PM
All the Shinedown CD’s are nicely recorded. They’re one of my favorite groups.

A CD I just got and am enjoying, but it might be a bit too mellow for this crowd is the new Tantric, The End Begins. Very clever use of a violin and a great recording overall.

I also got Def Leppard’s latest, Songs from the Sparkle Lounge. I’ve only listened to it once, but it sounds pretty good so far.
Posted By: Thasp Re: Good Rock recordings? - 07/13/08 06:10 AM
rock is heavy drums, distorted electric guitar, etc..

a good recording of some rock would not sound right, or like a record for the band, if it were recorded with a pair of DPA 4003s halfway between the floor and the ceiling.
Posted By: spiffnme Re: Good Rock recordings? - 07/14/08 03:29 PM
I've really enjoyed all the remastered Van Halen discs.

Van Halen
Van Halen II
Women & Children First
Fair Warning
Diver Down
1984
Posted By: St_PatGuy Re: Good Rock recordings? - 07/14/08 03:34 PM
Yeah, I have the first two remastered albums, and thought they sounded great.

I definitely had the cassettes, years ago.

Now that I think about it, I had the David Lee Roth solo effort "Eat 'Em Up and Smile" on vinyl.
Posted By: aquashankar Re: Good Rock recordings? - 07/21/08 05:01 PM
Even I've mostly felt that the Axioms are too bright for metal. However, if I have to make a choice of excellent recordings, I would go with these:

Bon Jovi: Keep the Faith
Metallica: Ride the Lightning, Master of Puppets, Kill 'em All
Judas Priest: Metal Works (This recording is lovely)
Rammstein: Mutter, Sehnsucht, Herzeleid (Asche zu Asche is fantastic in this album)
Cinderella: Night Songs
Metallica: S&M (Really punishes the speakers with so many instruments)


Most of AC/DC's recordings have too much boom in the upper bass area. Megadeth's recordings were hollow on some albums though I don't remember which ones. Iron Maiden was too noisy.

I'm not aware of the new bands. Perhaps Linkin Park is worth a mention as their songs sounded like they had good recordings.

In fact, even today, I restrict myself from listening to rock music on the axioms and prefer to hear them through my Sennheiser headphones. All other forms of non-rock music seem to sound better on the Axioms. I haven't been able to pinpoint why but it just is.
Posted By: fredk Re: Good Rock recordings? - 07/21/08 07:40 PM
I bet it has more to do with the quality of the recordings than the quality of the speakers. I can't say that I listen to much in the way of metal, but stuff like Lead Zeppilin sounds just fine on my M80s.
Posted By: aquashankar Re: Good Rock recordings? - 07/22/08 04:55 AM
I agree. Most of the recordings are too bright and "in-your-face". The ones I've listed seem to be sensibly done according to me.
Posted By: Murph Re: Good Rock recordings? - 07/24/08 02:03 PM
Hey Auqua,
I used to have the Cinderella: Night Songs on cassette, back in the day, and loved it. That is until a friend of mine pointed out that the lead singer sounded just like Marge Simpson. I just couldn't listen to it anymore after that. LOL
Posted By: FireGuy Re: Good Rock recordings? - 08/03/08 11:49 PM
I know I'm late into this, but AC/DC live at Donnington DVD is spectacular.
Posted By: Murph Re: Good Rock recordings? - 08/05/08 02:01 PM
Agreed! I crank that one even when I'm not withing viewing distance of the TV sometimes.

Heard the new Soulfly on the weekend. Gutteral singing but musical. Sounded like it was well recorded but it was in my Jeep so I can't tell for sure.

They throw in a Brazilian, Tribal influence to their otherwise, borderline, thrash metal, if you have never heard them.
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