looking for speakers for Sony STR-DE697

Posted by: metronet

looking for speakers for Sony STR-DE697 - 04/03/08 07:20 PM


I am new in the forum and I am looking for a pair of bookshelves speakers to use with my sony receiver STR-DE697.

It is my understanding that the 7.1 receiver I got is a low end system and it does about 70 to 100 Watts (MAX) so I am seeking advice as what version should I get?

The new speakers I am looking for a primarily gonna be hooked up to my iPhone to listen to musics.

Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.
Posted by: SirQuack

Re: looking for speakers for Sony STR-DE697 - 04/03/08 07:30 PM

what is your budget? how big is your room? so your going to hook the iphone to the receiver I assume? Anyway, all the axiom speakers are very efficient and will use 1 watt to achieve very loud levels from 3ft away (1 meter). Your Sony will be fine.

A speaker that is rated at 90-95dBs 1 watt 1 meter, is pretty loud.
Posted by: metronet

Re: looking for speakers for Sony STR-DE697 - 04/03/08 07:44 PM


sirquack, thanks for the speedy reply.
My budget is around $500 dollar for the pair.

I often hear that a good/high-end speaker needs matching preamp/apm to get the best result.

What should I do in my case? I am hopping to get the best result using my current all-in-one receiver.

Can I add a simple pre-amp to the receiver? will it make a difference?
Would I be wasting my money if I go for a more expensive speaker model?

Thanks again.
Posted by: Ken.C

Re: looking for speakers for Sony STR-DE697 - 04/03/08 07:51 PM

You won't be wasting your money in the slightest. In fact, adding a pre-amp would be the biggest waste of money. You can always change out the receiver later if you feel it's not giving you what you want.

I'd go with M3s if you're not getting a sub; M22s if you are.
Posted by: SirQuack

Re: looking for speakers for Sony STR-DE697 - 04/03/08 08:08 PM

Most likely the sony will be fine. If you ever added an external amp, the receiver would be the preamp and you would bypass the sony's internal amp. However, you might be better off just upgrading your receiver. Unless you really crank things up in a very large room, you will be fine. Again,the speakers will only use 1-2 watts most of the time to achieve pretty loud results, with brief peaks during certain music, your sony should be able to handle if it is rated at 70 or more watts per channel.
Posted by: jakewash

Re: looking for speakers for Sony STR-DE697 - 04/03/08 08:37 PM

I have an old Sony STRD915(?) that I have my M22s hooked up to and they sound great even with out a sub. Don't worry about needing an extra amp nor preamp.
Posted by: JohnK

Re: looking for speakers for Sony STR-DE697 - 04/03/08 09:54 PM

Met, welcome. Forget any stuff that you may have heard about your 697 being "low-end" or that you should get more expensive amplification to "match" good speakers such as the Axioms. One of the great things about the current audio scene is the excellent receivers that are available to us at quite low cost and amplify with transparent quality. No need for the high-priced stuff that some push.

Consider getting a pair of M22s to enjoy your music more, as I've been doing with mine now for six years.
Posted by: DaveG

Re: looking for speakers for Sony STR-DE697 - 04/04/08 07:49 AM

I would also recommend you consider the M22s, I really enjoy mine.
Posted by: Murph

Re: looking for speakers for Sony STR-DE697 - 04/04/08 08:05 AM

Welcome Metro.
I agree with all above. Don't be concerned at all about your receiver unless you plan on playing at extremely loud levels. I'm talking, nobody can hear each other at the party, kind of loud.

I have not heard the M3s or M22 myself but both seem to be very well respected and popular choices. I'm wondering what kind of music you listen to and what your listening preferences are. Many people here strive to recreate the music as close to 'exactly how it was recorded' as possible. Others like to kick up the bass a notch or three.

M22s are known for an amazing accuracy and will do wonders for good source material but I noticed that you said you will be playing all your music from your Iphone.

If that is the case, your music will most likely be stored in a pretty compressed format and the M3s might be a better choice for you. I believe they are a bit more forgiving when playing compressed music. The accuracy of the M22s might tend to bring out the degradationsthat storing music in a compressed format creates.

If you have a PC, there are some great options to avoid this but I want to keep my post simple. Just wanted to mention my thought on the I-Phone possibly coming into the equation.

The M22 owners can perhaps verify or debunk my thoughts on this as I have never tried compressed music via M22s myself.
Posted by: terzaghi

Re: looking for speakers for Sony STR-DE697 - 04/04/08 08:26 AM

I would suggest streaming all of you music from you PC as uncompressed FLAC files and get the m22.
Posted by: metronet

Re: looking for speakers for Sony STR-DE697 - 04/08/08 12:46 PM

Thanks guys, I appreciate all the suggestions.

The musics I listen to are mainly classical, a little bit soft rock and very little pop.
Murph/terzaghi, I sync mostly AIFF and Apple Lossless from iTune to the iPhone and Yes, compressed music sounds horrible \:\)
I'm having a hard time finding a good DAC to get the music out of the iPhone to play like a good CD-Player so I think I'll just stick with Mac-mini's optical out for now.

A colleage of mine got the m22s at home so I dropped by in the weekend to check them out, wow they are nice.
Right now I am contemplating what speakers to get. I am considering the m60s or the m22s since the speakers I am replacing are two really old 250Watt floorstanders.

Any suggestions or opinions on the m60s? (for a place about 300+ square feet)

thanks again.
Posted by: jakewash

Re: looking for speakers for Sony STR-DE697 - 04/08/08 02:02 PM

You wil really fill up that 300sq.ft. with sound with the M60s. They have a much fuller sound than the pin point accuracy of the M22s. I've had both and the M60s feel warmer less clinical in there presentation and they have lots more potential for bass output than the M22s. The vocals are more pronounced on the M22s than on the M60s which was hard for me to accept when I had the M60s in house and compared the 2. I ended up going to the M80s, they are a good approximation of the M22/M60 combination. I even ran the M22s with the M60s, now that was an awesome setup, even a little better than the M80s, IMO.
Posted by: Murph

Re: looking for speakers for Sony STR-DE697 - 04/08/08 02:10 PM

If you have a friend with M22s nearby then this gives you a great opportunity convince your colleague that you should do an a/b comparison of the two. Then, should you decide you like the M22s better after a direct comparison, you can take advantage of the 30 day return policy. If you order the M22s now, you will never know for sure you made the right choice.

Oh, and make sure you let us know the results of your comparison.
Posted by: metronet

Re: looking for speakers for Sony STR-DE697 - 05/01/08 12:22 PM

Well, I picked up the m60s from the local Purolator and managed to put one in my back seat and half in the trunk and half hanging outside the trunk \:\)

I can definitely hear the difference in sound comparing to my 10+ years old SONY floor speakers. However, it seems that my wife is not pleased with the new m60s... I mean there is a slight difference but she complains the speakers sounds hollower than before ???

While I could hear the difference but not as much as expected when I got the Mhdt Lab tube-buffer Paradisea DAC years ago - that was a night/day difference.

Question: do the speakers need to be broken in?
I am going to A/B the sony vs. the m60s tonight after work.
Perhaps my setup is not corrent OR, maybe it's about time to upgrade my AMP?

Now, my setup is simple:

Samsung HD841 via optical toslink to DAC's spdif and from there it's RCA to my SONY STR-DE697.

The other thing worth mentioning is I am using the same speakers cable (haven't had time to install the new cables I ordered).

Thanks.
Posted by: jakewash

Re: looking for speakers for Sony STR-DE697 - 05/01/08 02:46 PM

The Sony should be ok, check to make sure the 2 straps under the speaker terminals on the M60s are flat against the post, if one is off you could be losing some sound.

You could also just be used to the boomy sound older/cheaper floorstanders have compared to the Axioms.
Posted by: metronet

Re: looking for speakers for Sony STR-DE697 - 05/02/08 01:02 AM

Thanks again jakewash.

After A/B the new and the old, the sony is no match for the m60s.
Now my old speakers really sound like a broken pair \:\)

The more I listen to the m60s, the more I like them... I start to really enjoy them with my current stereo setup.

Now I am going to see if I could hook them up to a friend of mine's Accuphase to compare with his Totems this weekend.

Oh and I'm not sure if I still want to A/B with the m22s... I think I already know my answer.

cheers.

P.S. I took some pictures gonna see if I can post them tonight.
Posted by: fredk

Re: looking for speakers for Sony STR-DE697 - 05/02/08 01:18 AM

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compare with his Totems this weekend

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