Axiom vs Aperion

Posted by: Thrummer

Axiom vs Aperion - 11/19/10 01:39 PM

For anyone familiar, are Axioms much brighter than Aperion.
I had decided on Aperion 6T, 5C across the front,

but Axiom M60 and VP150 are a couple hundred dollars cheaper, and Axiom are generally very well reviewed.

Policy on shipping/return etc. is about the same too, and they are Cdn (where I am).

Most of the Axiom reviews have been raves, but one did mention fatigue. I don't like a bright/forward sound (just a full/clear one).
My HT room is 11 x16 and audio bright (no curtains, hardwood, no large openings).

There is one poster here that had both in their home at the same time, but he didn't like either of them and sent the lot back.

Looking for any other opinions.
Thanks.
Posted by: bdpf

Re: Axiom vs Aperion - 11/19/10 02:22 PM

Welcome to the forum!

I never heard the Aperions and obviously, as an Axiom owner, I don't find them fatiguing or else I would have returned them. I would consider Axiom speaker to be forward as forwardness is often related to detailed mids but not harsh or irritating. I have heard both M60s and M80s and the M80s is the most "forward" of the 2.
My room is similar to yours, 20x11ft, hardwood, no curtains. At very high volumes, the sound starts to become "blurry", not from the brightness but from the reflections in the room, so the more acoustically friendly your room would be, the better they would sound but this is true for any accurate speaker IMO. For example, my M80s sounded better when I had carpet, still sounds good with a thick pile rug but it becomes horrible with hardwood and an empty room because of the echo.
You can do a few things
1) go to the "hearing things" forum and see if you can audition Axiom speakers near you.
2) Where do you live in Canada? If in the GTA, you could always go to the Axiom facility, listen there and get a factory tour.
3) You could order them, listen at your place and return them if you don't like them.

Cheers,
Posted by: idboy

Re: Axiom vs Aperion - 11/19/10 02:35 PM

A few points of similarity - you will get excellent service from both companies, and chances are be very happy with the products either way. That being said, having recently become an Axiom owner (official story and review posts in the coming days) I would strongly recommend Axiom. Their approach to speaker design and evaluation strikes me as being more scientifically based than Aperion (no offense to them), they have much greater value when you compare similar models (even if you concede that the speakers are identical in sound quality - the cost alone wins the day), and they have a much longer pedigree as well (which may or may not make a difference to you). In terms of sound quality, others will come and comment on the "brightness" or "harshness" critiques, but I will simply say the sound is beautiful and I love it.
Posted by: CatBrat

Re: Axiom vs Aperion - 11/19/10 02:41 PM

Concerning my thoughts on brightness... I would much rather hear the highs in recordings, such as cymbals, than a system that suppressed these just to say that their system isn't bright.
Posted by: grunt

Re: Axiom vs Aperion - 11/19/10 05:10 PM


Although I havenít heard Aperion this review helped influence me toward Axiom because I found that other comments in general fell in line with what this reviewer was saying and from experience with the M2, M22 and M80 can say that the Axiom design philosophy cares through all three of these speakers.

The Aperion and Axiom reviews are the last two.

http://www.enjoythemusic.com/magazine/equipment/0509/aperion_intimus_5b_axiom_m2v2_paradigm_v6.htm

Posted by: tomtuttle

Re: Axiom vs Aperion - 11/19/10 06:53 PM

Welcome! smile

I own M60's and like them very much. I do not consider them "bright". They are detailed and revealing.

I have heard the Aperion Intimus 6T (but not in my home). I thought they sounded really good. I think the midrange clarity on the Axioms is a little better.

The Axiom vinyl is VERY good, but the real wood veneer finish on the stock Aperion's is somewhat nicer, to me. However, I do really like the Axiom cabinet shape rather than the big rectangle.

I think you would probably be very happy with either. One factor that was meaningful to me is that Axiom's final assembly point is in North America rather than overseas. I like to support American/Canadian jobs with my purchases wherever I can.
Posted by: SirQuack

Re: Axiom vs Aperion - 11/19/10 06:55 PM

A little biased don't you think Tom. smile
Posted by: jakewash

Re: Axiom vs Aperion - 11/19/10 07:10 PM

Tom = Fanboy wink
Posted by: Da_Gimp_Pimp

Re: Axiom vs Aperion - 11/19/10 09:32 PM

Originally Posted By: jakewash
Tom = Fanboy Fangeezer wink

Posted by: tomtuttle

Re: Axiom vs Aperion - 11/19/10 11:19 PM

Hey, now. There's plenty of guys older than me around here. Okay, maybe not "plenty". Okay, so Ray and Jack aren't around much anymore. But...

Criminy, I am a geezer. FML.

Did I mention that Mark and I are the same age?
Posted by: jakewash

Re: Axiom vs Aperion - 11/19/10 11:34 PM

It seems to me I am pretty close to you and Mark.
Posted by: HomeDad

Re: Axiom vs Aperion - 11/19/10 11:53 PM

I've owned both, they both sound good, I preferred Axiom for sound but think the Aperions have a better finish. The sound was more important to me, so I gave the Aperions to my brother in law who liked the sound but was even more impressed by their finish. I'm not an audiophile so this was my personal opinion, others may disagree.
Posted by: MarkSJohnson

Re: Axiom vs Aperion - 11/20/10 05:53 AM

Sure, Tom. Drag ME into it.
Posted by: Da_Gimp_Pimp

Re: Axiom vs Aperion - 11/20/10 08:40 AM

Mark looked very weathered when I met him.... wink
Posted by: terzaghi

Re: Axiom vs Aperion - 11/20/10 09:52 AM

I think it was the booze.
Posted by: MarkSJohnson

Re: Axiom vs Aperion - 11/20/10 10:01 AM

I never had more than two beers..... i.e., I always look like that!
Posted by: tomtuttle

Re: Axiom vs Aperion - 11/20/10 01:22 PM

Well, apparently "Old" loves company as much as "Guilty" and "Misery".
Posted by: fredk

Re: Axiom vs Aperion - 11/21/10 12:19 AM

Originally Posted By: tomtuttle
Hey, now. There's plenty of guys older than me around here. Okay, maybe not "plenty". Okay, so Ray and Jack aren't around much anymore. But...

Criminy, I am a geezer. FML.

Did I mention that Mark and I are the same age?

Tom and Mark, the new Ray and Jack...
Posted by: Adrian

Re: Axiom vs Aperion - 11/21/10 11:02 AM

You hear that Ray and Jack!!? get your azzes back in here, there's guys after your jobs!!
Posted by: tomtuttle

Re: Axiom vs Aperion - 11/21/10 05:02 PM

Waitaminute - you two are also members of the late-mid-40's club if I'm not mistaken. I'll not be easily railroaded into geezerhood!

And NOBODY can replace or keep up with Ray and Jack. I'm content to continue being me.
Posted by: Ken.C

Re: Axiom vs Aperion - 11/21/10 05:21 PM

I'm nooooot!
Posted by: michael_d

Re: Axiom vs Aperion - 11/21/10 08:50 PM

Originally Posted By: HomeDad
I've owned both, they both sound good, I preferred Axiom for sound but think the Aperions have a better finish. The sound was more important to me, so I gave the Aperions to my brother in law who liked the sound but was even more impressed by their finish. I'm not an audiophile so this was my personal opinion, others may disagree.



You know what you like, right? So don't worry about labels and pedigrees. Your opinion counts just as much, if not more than those who listen with their eyes. Just like wine, some folks only drink what Parker rates as "good". They are, quite frankly, Idiots that will never learn and miss out on a lot of good juice.
Posted by: HomeDad

Re: Axiom vs Aperion - 11/25/10 05:19 PM

I hear you Michael, we all have different opinions on what we like and dislike, and like you what works best for me is what I'll stick with, regardless of other opinions. Speaking of wine, with the holidays and the wife on vacation our reserves are dwindling again. laugh