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Posted By: DAVEY_RACKETS Axiom Outlet - 10/12/03 01:25 AM
Any complaints as far as a purchase from the outlet store? Same quality, any problems experienced?
How much savings would you consider between A stock or B stock. The difference between the two, for me, is 75.00.
Suggestions.
Posted By: mwc Re: Axiom Outlet - 10/12/03 01:29 AM
I've had my M22s for over a year now. I bought them from the outlet store and there wasn't a detectable flaw and they have performed flawlessly.
Posted By: spiffnme Re: Axiom Outlet - 10/12/03 01:50 AM
If what you want is available in the outlet GRAB it! I've bought my QS8's, M22's, VP150 and M60's all from the outlet. I never found a flaw on anything but the M60's, and it was TINY. You'd really have to look hard to find it.
Posted By: chesseroo Re: Axiom Outlet - 10/12/03 02:01 AM
DAVEY, i used to have some pictures of the "flaws" on my QS8s that i grabbed from the Outlet but i have since taken them down.
I only ever found one small area near the back where the vinyl finish looked a little 'garbled'.
Other than that, the FO VP150 looked absolutely perfect.
I think someone made an error tossing that one into the FO bin.
It really is a great deal for 10% (or so) off the price.
Posted By: spiffnme Re: Axiom Outlet - 10/12/03 07:47 AM
I don't think it was a mistake, like I said, all of my "outlet" pieces have been awesome. They've just got some crazy anal retentive QA.
Posted By: snippy Re: Axiom Outlet - 10/12/03 07:30 PM
My VP150 is outlet and it has a amall black mark, possibly sharpie, on the side, very small and only visible when looking for it. My M22s are from the outlet and I have not yet found any blemish, they seem perfect!
Posted By: DAVEY_RACKETS Re: Axiom Outlet - 10/13/03 02:29 PM
So A savings of 75.00 would warrant a choice for the outlet pieces? I was concerned with quality in sound, not as much as PURE aesthetics.
Posted By: gem41573 Re: Axiom Outlet - 10/13/03 02:41 PM
Seriously, get items off the factory outlet if you can. Minor cosmetic flaws if any, and no way would Axiom send out a factory outlet item that had a defect in the sound (but if this did happen, I am sure they would take care of it).
Posted By: sushi Re: Axiom Outlet - 10/13/03 06:47 PM
Yes, I bought my VP150 and QS8s from the F.O. Maybe I've not been careful or anal enough, but so far I've been unable to find a supposed "cosmetic blemish" on any of them.
Posted By: twodan19 Re: Axiom Outlet - 10/13/03 07:32 PM
could just be a marketing ploy by axiom. only a few items listed on the fo page, but if you ask, items are in stock at the outlet at 10% off. the A stock pile to the B stock pile. make a sale even if it's for 10% less. a sale at 90% of the asking price is better than no sale at 100% of the asking price. we do it here if the final result is a sale.
dan
Posted By: sushi Re: Axiom Outlet - 10/13/03 08:19 PM
My assumption is that Axiom puts all items returned under the 30-day trial policy to the F.O., even if they cannot find a cosmetic flaw.
Posted By: twopecker Re: Axiom Outlet - 10/13/03 08:20 PM
Anyone ever bought just one item from the outlet, like purchasing just a single QS8 to finish off a 6.1 system? Will axiom do this?
Posted By: spiffnme Re: Axiom Outlet - 10/13/03 08:53 PM
Yes they will. When I asked about my QS8's Amie offered to sell a single unit.
Posted By: twopecker Re: Axiom Outlet - 10/13/03 08:57 PM
tempting me so much more now. I see that QS8's are sitting there, but I am trying to save up a little extra and get rid of the m22ti's and buy a pair of M60's.

Someone needs to buy all those QS8's from the outlet so they quit yelling my name while I sleep!
Posted By: koiman Re: Axiom Outlet - 10/14/03 03:05 AM
I have one on order to give a grand total of four QS8. So that is one less for you to worry about. HA-HA..
Posted By: twopecker Re: Axiom Outlet - 10/14/03 03:07 AM
See, thats not working though.

Cause now I know you ordered one, and now I want one even more!

AND you have FOUR, so me having three isnt that bad at all!
Posted By: tobz67 Re: Axiom Outlet - 10/14/03 11:59 PM
Jump on the outlet stuff, to my understanding they're just cosmetic flaws. I bought my M60s, VP150, QS8s, and M3s all from the outlet. I found a small scratch on the back of one of the M3s and a tiny cut in the vinyl on the bottom edge of an M60. I can't figure out why the rest were 'rejected'. Same sound, less cash :-)
Posted By: oldskoolboarder Re: Axiom Outlet - 10/15/03 12:12 AM
speaking of outlets...I saw that Crutchfield's Scratch and Dent has the Denon 2200 for $509 w/ free shipping. If you have one of those $20 crutchfield coupons (first time buyers only) then it's $489 for a 2200. Not bad.

I had to opt for the Goodguys.com for $599 minus 10% because I already bought stuff from Crutchfield years ago.
Posted By: spiffnme Re: Axiom Outlet - 10/15/03 02:53 AM
You can get the Denon DVD-2900 for about $600 occasionally from their authorized b-stock sellers. There's a good chance that some point down the road a 2900 may be in my setup.

What's the major difference between the 2900 and the 2200?
Posted By: snippy Re: Axiom Outlet - 10/15/03 04:44 PM
Build quality and price seem to be the only differences I can find. And height of the unit. They seem to have almost the same exact specs all the way around. Very confusing to me.
Posted By: oldskoolboarder Re: Axiom Outlet - 10/15/03 07:11 PM
Go to
http://www.usa.denon.com/catalog/pdfs/DVD%20Web%20Chart%20100203.pdf
to see the differences. On avs, other members claim the video is the same but the 2900 has better DACs. One difference w/ the video that i saw was w/ 4:3 zoom. I'm planning on a 42" plasma (EDTV). Does anyone know what this would mean in this case?
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