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#100403 - 07/03/05 03:53 PM Re: Need much help with getting a system!
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#100404 - 07/03/05 03:55 PM Re: Need much help with getting a system!
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OK. Let's talk game systems, because that's going to play into how the video goes from the DVD to the TV or to the receiver. What do you have/are you getting?

Also, does your TV have stereo outputs?
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#100405 - 07/03/05 03:59 PM Re: Need much help with getting a system!
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I have: Gamecube, Playstation 2, and N64 in that room. (GCN and N64 pretty much use the same cable). From what I've heard red and white are all game consoles have but it works with the surround.. The TV has only what you see in the middle pic. No outputs, just inputs.

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#100406 - 07/03/05 04:01 PM Re: Need much help with getting a system!
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The PS 2 at the very least should have a digital audio output of some variety; it's essentially a DVD player. That's what will give you surround. I think the same applies to the Gamecube. Can you post pics of the back panels of those devices? (and maybe a closer in shot of the Onkyo?)
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#100407 - 07/03/05 04:10 PM Re: Need much help with getting a system!
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Closer shot of Onkyo 602

Well I read from other sources that game systems use a surround sound type thing even though they only have red and white cables. and I'm not concerned with the PS2 as a DVD player because I don't play DVDs in it.

back of a gamecube

Havne't found a back of a ps2 but I'm not as concerned after reading from other places. I am pretty sure on how to hook those up, but after all this talk of digital audio out from dvd players and such I'm not sure of that.

EDIT:
Here is a site that answers my GCN and PS2 questions. So lets move onto DVD and where exactly the cable should go.


Edited by SanityLapse (07/03/05 04:15 PM)

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#100408 - 07/03/05 06:03 PM Re: Need much help with getting a system!
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Let's get the approach right before we start running cables. I'm thinking :

- use the tuner in the VCR/DVD player so cable input goes to the VCR, not the TV. Take the batteries out of the TV remote and put it away unless you need it to turn the TV on and off...

- run VCR/TV and DVD as separate inputs on the receiver, using comp video and stereo audio (red/white) cables for the VCR/TV, S-Video and digital coax for the DVD.

- run S-Video from receiver to TV, all audio goes through the main speakers not the TV speakers (ie no audio feed to the TV)

- if the receiver can switch and convert to component video (ie if the rightmost set of component video RCAs are "monitor out") then replace "S-Video" with "component video" everywhere above...

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#100409 - 07/03/05 06:06 PM Re: Need much help with getting a system!
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You hook up the dvd player for surround sound this way. On the back of your dvd player is labeled digital audio out with a coaxial connector. Plug one end of the coaxial cable into that connector and the other end into your receiver which is labeled digital coaxial(in 1 or in 2). After you do that then go to your Onkyo set up menu and assign the dvd player to input 1 or 2 and your set.
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#100410 - 07/05/05 06:59 PM Re: Need much help with getting a system!
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ok how does this look? (I just relize I accidently put the Gamecube and DVD/VCR into the outs on the amp, but pretend I have them on the Ins)

Is this right?

And if you want to re draw it use this template

Edit: I decided not to go with any component video inputs because they are too expensive, and only the DVD player would use em, the game systems can't. So there is no point when everything else would be S-Video. So I was just gonna do everything as S-Video.


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#100411 - 07/05/05 07:03 PM Re: Need much help with getting a system!
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Looks pretty good. You might get better sound out of the PS2 if you got the optical digital audio out setup going on it, as opposed to the L/R analog outs, but that may require a new cable for the PS2 (not sure). Also, does your reciever do video upconversion? If not, you'll need to hook up a composite video cable to the TV from the receiver. Also, you might consider running component video from the DVD either straight to the TV or through the receiver to the TV as opposed to S-video. So many options!
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#100412 - 07/06/05 11:24 AM Re: Need much help with getting a system!
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Sanity,

Actually there is a component cable for the GameCube, although you do have to order it from Nintendo...one thing though, if you go that route, you have to use the red and white analog audio connections anyway. The back of the GameCube "says" Digital AV but it is really only Digital Video especially since the cable you get from Nintendo only has the three component connectors ( I know I have one ).

I believe there is a component cable for the PS2...Ken is correct about the digital out for the PS2...

As for component being too expensive (it looks better than composite or s-video, not to mention, your TV has inputs for it ), Radio Shack (yes, I said Radio Shack ) has some good inexpensive component cables as well as Fry's (provided you have one)...Target has some good quality component cables as well...You could look at Best Buy or Circuit City, but stay away from Monster...Expensive for quality available elsewhere...also check Home Depot and Lowe's...they have been carrying component cables too...

It appears that the receiver you have, will pass-through everything via component...centralized switching is a good thing.

My .02,

WhatFurrer


Edited by WhatFurrer (07/06/05 11:35 AM)
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