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#109167 - 08/30/05 07:20 PM EP-600 Review thread.
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As promised, here is a new thread just for the EP-600 review. Eventually, there will be some comparisons to the PB12-Ultra. For now, here is the starter graph with no eq applied ...


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#109168 - 08/30/05 07:27 PM Re: EP-600 Review thread.
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Picture is here now... You mean I waited all day and night and refreshed your arrival page for this Lets get the ball moving J/K I have been waiting 8 months for my ep 600 80 set... Now where is the comparisons.


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#109169 - 08/30/05 07:47 PM Re: EP-600 Review thread.
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Here is a "peak hold" graph of Master and Commander. I left it on peak hold so everyone could see the bass spectaculars, and then I stopped it during dialogue - which is the SPL listed in the upper left - appx. 75 dB...

This sub hits HARD...


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#109170 - 08/30/05 07:59 PM Re: EP-600 Review thread.
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To help those interested, some explanation of the Master and Commander graph... the EP-600 was delivering 120 dB peaks in the 25 to 30 Hz band on the cannon shots. This weekend, I will try the same scene on twin Ultras. The room was shaking, yet this bass was never sloppy - just deep, tight and powerful.

It passed this test nicely. This disc also has 45 dB peaks over the normal dialogue. That means a tough disc for a home theater ...
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#109171 - 08/31/05 08:30 PM Re: EP-600 Review thread.
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Tonight, I used "The Incredibles" for some more testing. The graph is of the fight scene between Mr. Incredible and the 4 legged robot.

A note - This NOT a frequency response curve, it shows the max SPL's at differing frequencies which are being delivered by the movie. More analysis below ...

The Fight Scene graph :



Note the most potent bass here is from about 25 to 32 Hz. Again, this is what the movie delivers in the soundtrack.

I will hopefully find a movie with some solid 16 Hz bass - which is rare. Suggestions accepted ...
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#109172 - 08/31/05 08:33 PM Re: EP-600 Review thread.
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Try I Robot.Not the best of movies but quite a bit of bass.
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#109173 - 08/31/05 08:41 PM Re: EP-600 Review thread.
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I will look into I Robot again - I think the really powerful stuff was in the 25 Hz range there, too.

For example, The Incredibles has some pretty potent stuff in the 20 Hz range, but at a signifigantly lower level than at 25 to 35 Hz.
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#109174 - 08/31/05 08:56 PM Re: EP-600 Review thread.
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Craig, Put in disc 2 of The Incredibles, and select Jack-Jack Attack. Right at the end where the FBI agent uses the "neuralizer" (sp? - sorry) on Kari, there is a deep rumble that rattles everything in my basement. Not sure how deep it is.......

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#109175 - 08/31/05 09:08 PM Re: EP-600 Review thread.
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Real 80's ... I just did. Basically, it was a plateau of bass from 28 to 32 Hz. That may also give you an idea how DEEP 28 to 32 Hz is. By the way, it drops like a cliff below and above that 4 Hz band.
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#109176 - 08/31/05 10:04 PM Re: EP-600 Review thread.
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Craig I am awaiting all of your reviews on this and have downloaded all your graphs(hope you dont mind). I think there was talk about the whale in "Finding Nemo" and cannons from "Pirates of the Caribbean" Depth charges in "U-571". These are just some of the movies I have heard of.

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