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#142447 - 06/27/06 05:07 PM Re: Acoustic Panels [Re: SirQuack]
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Yes, place two traps behind your mains. Your sub could be in one of those corners, too.

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#142448 - 06/27/06 09:52 PM Re: Acoustic Panels [Re: royce73]
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Royce or jakeman, do you have any instructions and/or pictures of your traps, I'm a DIY guy.
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#142449 - 06/27/06 11:13 PM Re: Acoustic Panels [Re: SirQuack]
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Has anyone used these products, prices seem fair?

http://www.foambymail.com/Products.html
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#142450 - 06/27/06 11:24 PM Re: Acoustic Panels [Re: SirQuack]
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Royce or jakeman, do you have any instructions and/or pictures of your traps, I'm a DIY guy.




This is a good start

This one is a bit trickier, IMHO

I almost went with this one

In the end, I settled for this one

And one for good luck...

If you are a DIY'er, any of these should be cake. I am a hopeless case when it comes to DIY, but even I could figure these out. If you have trouble finding the accoustic material (whether it be Rock Wool or Rigid Fiberglass), there is a on-line guy in Missouri who has great prices. Let me know and I will post the link.

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#142451 - 06/27/06 11:35 PM Re: Acoustic Panels [Re: SirQuack]
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Ibelieve the last link I provided talks about foam products and how they are really not worth the price because they are not even close in low frequency absobtion compared to DIY traps that can be built for $19 a piece.

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#142452 - 06/27/06 11:50 PM Re: Acoustic Panels [Re: royce73]
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Thanks man, I found some of those links using Google, I'll have to check the others out. I think your 1st and last link are the same.

I really only have the two corners behind the left/right mains and sub. That area is where my screen sits back about 6feet. Then it opens up into a much larger room. My surrounds and projector are near a boxed in area for my duct work. I was thinking about putting something up there facing back towards the mains. This treatment stuff is new to me, however, I don't want to go overboard and ruin the sound which sounds great now. If you followed my first attempt at graphing my room with the realtraps cd, I had some big ups/downs....


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#142453 - 06/27/06 11:53 PM Re: Acoustic Panels [Re: SirQuack]
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Thanks man, I found some of those links using Google, I'll have to check the others out. I think your 1st and last link are the same.






In my defense, it's almost midnight here - I should be in bed!! This always happens when the wife is away!

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#142454 - 06/28/06 08:36 AM Re: Acoustic Panels [Re: royce73]
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I'm confused.

I'm not trying to sound negative about the whole thing, but on the provided link "I almost went with this one" there is a before/after graph at the top of the page. Clicking to take a better look, I just don't see the results that the author (near the bottom of the page) calls:

"In a word ASTONISHING! The once muddy room now sounds fantastic! I can hear pristine mixes, much sharper sound stage ,clear imaging, much tighter bass lines. My studio has never sounded better! I feel like I'm finally getting to hear what my studio equipment and monitors can do."

Not to sound like a jerk, but after installing what the author says is "7 Bass Traps, 2 mid/high Traps, and 2 "Super Chunk" traps" I would expect results that are better than a lower-level virtual mirror of the original measurements.

I do believe in the idea of acoustic treatments and have primarily avoided trying it only because I'm already short on space. But the results that he's touting don't look very impressive to me at all!

Can someone else look at the graph and tell me....am I missing something?
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#142455 - 06/28/06 04:26 PM Re: Acoustic Panels [Re: MarkSJohnson]
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No, that guy sniffed too much fresh foam, I think.
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#142456 - 06/28/06 05:39 PM Re: Acoustic Panels [Re: MarkSJohnson]
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I'm with you Mark. To me, the graph still has the same dips and peaks, everything has just been dampened.

I have also been researching some treatments for my room. Don't know what just yet (DIY or professional), I am trying to decide what is "needed" without absorbtion overkill.

I'm thinking some absorbtion panels up front at the 1st reflection points between the speakers and the listeners. For me this is just 2 panels, unless I put 1 or 2 more on the ceiling. I have decided not to do any panels in the back of the room (between the side and back surrounds). Here you don't want absorbtion of the mid and high frequencies, but rather diffusion for a more spacious surround effect.

There sure is a lot to understand about room acoustics when you are new to it. I have done a lot of reading and still feel confused
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