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#143457 - 07/13/06 10:06 PM TV Stands
Zarak Offline
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Registered: 03/09/03
Posts: 1849
Loc: PA
Anyone have a good spot to look for TV stands? I am tentatively planning on the new Sony 50" A2000 when it comes out next month, depending upon how it looks once it is actually released. I'll need a stand for it too though. I don't expect the VP150 to be able to sit on top of the TV, so the stand will need room for that, the receiver, 2 DVD players (one is really for SACD), a digital cable box, and maybe a VCR, but it might finally be time to dump that. I'll look at stores if I need to, but I prefer to look online. I would need not just unit dimensions, but dimensions of the shelves as well though, if I was going to buy one online without seeing it in a store.

As far as stores go, I'm sure AV stores have stands, but they are probably expensive to get from there. I don't know that regular furniture stores would have much. I'm not a DIY type of guy, so that isn't really an option. Any suggestions?


Ideally there should be a back to it so the wires have something to hide behind, although the ones I am seeing that would work best seem to be glass without dividers side to side on the shelf so things can fit however they fit instead of being limited to an area. The glass ones don't have back though, because well...they're glass.


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#143458 - 07/13/06 11:24 PM Re: TV Stands [Re: Zarak]
Zarak Offline
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Registered: 03/09/03
Posts: 1849
Loc: PA
I've been searching since I posted this. www.racksandstands.com has been the best selection with good detail I have found so far. The Bello AVS-522T, Sanus NFV49C, and TechCraft PTV48 might work. I'm open to other suggestions as well. I'd have to see the one designed by Sony to work with the TV in person. I'm not sure if the shelving would work with all of my equipment.

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#143459 - 07/14/06 08:17 AM Re: TV Stands [Re: Zarak]
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You may also want to try Stands and Mounts.
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#143460 - 07/14/06 03:24 PM Re: TV Stands [Re: MarkSJohnson]
pmbuko Offline
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Stands and Mounts



He does? And how does she feel about it?
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#143461 - 07/15/06 02:43 PM Re: TV Stands [Re: Zarak]
duckman Offline
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Registered: 01/09/03
Posts: 312
Loc: kansas
Nowhere near inexpensive, but it looks better than anything I've seen. http://www.diamondcase.com/
I have several b-mpc's from http://www.sorice.com/
I'm not using mine as a tv stand but they can be ganged together for that purpose. I would, however consider the weight of the tv. The sorice is a solid piece, but everything has limits and a 50 inch tv...
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#143462 - 07/16/06 01:43 PM Re: TV Stands [Re: duckman]
Zarak Offline
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Loc: PA
I've found about 5 different stands that might work, ranging from $295-$440. I am going to wait until the TV comes out to make sure it is the one I am getting before looking further. There is a chance I'll look at the 55" as well if I think I can squeeze it in. My current entertainment center is 48" and it is a little tight fitting the speakers on either side. Width is 46.5" on the 50" and 50.9" on the 55 inch Sony's coming out. If the stand is going to be 51" at the top anyway, why not have a 55" TV sitting on it. Both should be out in August, and early September is my target at this point, so I should be ok there. I just hope the new Sony's look good when they come out, or I need to do a little reassesment on what to purchase.

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#143463 - 07/17/06 08:24 AM Re: TV Stands [Re: Zarak]
MarkSJohnson Offline
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You may want to check out IKEA as well.

If there's a style that fits your needs, I consistantly find their products to be very good for the money....
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#143464 - 07/17/06 08:59 PM Re: TV Stands [Re: MarkSJohnson]
St_PatGuy Offline
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Registered: 03/07/05
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Loc: Glendale, Arizona
One thing to keep in mind about Ikea is the weight limits on the units. I was looking at them because of the good price, but they wouldn't support the big behemoth TV I bought.

This is less of an issue with DLPs and LCDs. I went old skool and bought a CRT (a decision I regretted when three friends and I had to lug that bad boy up a flight of stairs).
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#143465 - 07/18/06 10:33 PM Re: TV Stands [Re: Zarak]
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Registered: 04/30/05
Posts: 1155
Loc: Alabama
You might want to go by Circut City or Best Buy and actually see what some of them look like, up and close. Sometimes the catalog pictures just don't do them justice, both good and bad.
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#143466 - 07/26/06 11:43 PM Re: TV Stands [Re: ratpack]
Zarak Offline
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Registered: 03/09/03
Posts: 1849
Loc: PA
Still searching....this is the best I have come up with:

TV Stand

I'm having a problem finding something in the 50" width range and 20" height range that will fit the VP150 (26.75x7.5x7.5) Receiver (17.25x16x7) and the other smaller items like 2 DVD players, VCR, and forthcoming digital cable box. HTPC might come at some point too, but that can take the VCR's spot if so.

Another problem is my wife doesn't like the more modern look that most of the stands have, and while she might end up being ok with the one in the link (not sure yet) she likes the wood stands better. Finding a stand that has two shelves with 7.5 inches of height (or at least one with 45" width to put the receiver and center next to each other) with the other requirements is difficult to say the least.

Anyone know a good place for custom made stands? I'd consider that as well, although I am guessing it is too expensive to be worth it unless it is a DIY. I certainly wouldn't consider myself handy though, and don't think I could put together a nice piece of furniture that would look good as a stand in the house. Assembly required when the stand shows up in the box is enough for me!

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#143467 - 07/29/06 09:24 PM Re: TV Stands [Re: Zarak]
Zarak Offline
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Registered: 03/09/03
Posts: 1849
Loc: PA
It's official...doesn't pass WAF. So, the search continues. Any good sites out there that aren't quite so modern looking? A stand that is 70-85" width would work as well. I would just have to move the M22 to either end of it, instead of on the stands they are on now. I am checking out the diamond case site now. I like some of what I've seen, but nothing that works with my measurements yet. I haven't seen prices yet, not sure if I want to. They might make me look like this:

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#143468 - 07/29/06 10:11 PM Re: TV Stands [Re: Zarak]
snakeyes Offline
aficionado

Registered: 07/13/04
Posts: 828
Loc: Newburgh, NY
I don't remember if you said there was a price requirement but these guys HERE make really nice stuff (a bit pricey though) my buddy has a couple of pieces.
Jake
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#143469 - 07/29/06 10:25 PM Re: TV Stands [Re: snakeyes]
Zarak Offline
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Registered: 03/09/03
Posts: 1849
Loc: PA
Thanks for the link. I checked them out already acutally. Unfortunately the measurements don't quite work. A double is a little too small, a triple would be too small to put the speakers on the TV stand, but too big to have room for separate stands on the side, and the quad would be a couple of inches too big for the wall. I might try to work something out anyway with them, or just go custom if I can't find anything. I've spent a large chunk of the day online and at stores looking at stands. My new TV will need a place to rest it's feet!

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#143470 - 07/30/06 12:19 AM Re: TV Stands [Re: Zarak]
duckman Offline
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Registered: 01/09/03
Posts: 312
Loc: kansas
There was an audioholics review on one of the diamondcase units that sounds about right for you, and the price was...
$2800 There were some options on that one, I think base price was like $2200. However, the top was like 2-3 inches thick real wood, you really would be set for life.
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#143471 - 07/30/06 08:33 AM Re: TV Stands [Re: duckman]
Zarak Offline
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Registered: 03/09/03
Posts: 1849
Loc: PA
Wow...those looked nice, but didn't know they were THAT expensive. I'll be spending that on the TV already! If I would go that route, I'd have to make sure it had enough room in case I wanted a bigger screen 10 years down the road, or whenever I upgrade beyond what I am about to get.

I got frustrated not finding anything last night and started to put together a plan for a custom design. I'm currently thinking 3 shelves, the top being 8" high and about 48" wide to hold the center and receiver, next one down is 7" high to hold the 2 DVD players and the HD box from comcast on one side, and the VCR (with extra room to replaced that with HTPC later) on the other side. The lower shelf would likely be a slide out drawer to store media in and would be about 6" high. That puts me at 21", plus whatever 1/4" of wood are needed in places between the shelves, the top, etc. Total height I am guessing around 23-24. A little taller then I wanted, but it is either that or make it shorter and a lot longer so the speakers on on the TV stand instead of their own. I'm also thinking about dividing up the left and right for the lower two shelves. Stack the DVD/HD as mentioned, but have the VCR below that. It is only 4" high, but that shelf could be 5.5" to have room to grow. The other side could then be two 6.25" shelves/drawers for media storage. That shaves 1/2 inch off the height at least, every little bit counts I guess.

Only other thought is have the center and VCR on the same shelf at only 42" across. Receiver and DVD/HD stack on next shelf, and only have two shelves. Then there would be room on one side for a media stack, extending the width of the cabinet another 6-8 inches. That might make it tight to have room for HTPC in place of VCR at some point though, I don't know how compact some of those cases are.

Looks like this post just turned into my brainstorming on paper. If I'm missing something let me know. I can't really go more then 53" across. The wall is 85" and the base of each speaker stand is about 16". Even that pushes one stand right up against the wall, instead of the couple of inches of breathing room I have now. Which puts the front right speaker that much more into the corner.

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#143472 - 07/30/06 11:56 AM Re: TV Stands [Re: Zarak]
michael_d Offline
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Registered: 07/23/04
Posts: 3875
Loc: Up yonder
I saw some pictures of work that a guy does and his work is nothing short of spectacular. I don't know much he charges, but maybe someone else here does. He does a lot of work for folks on the AV 123 board and goes by something like "Brucer" if I recall. Anyone know who I'm talking about?? I tried to log onto the AV web sight and it appears to be having troubles.

At any rate, custom is the way to go as you can pick your species of wood, size, shape, finish. You could always make some phone calls to some cabinet makers in your area. When you do, feel them out and ask if they make, or buy the doors. If they buy the doors, they've gone "production" and away from "custom" as the doors take real craftsmanship and time, whereas the cases just take a good table saw.
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#143473 - 07/30/06 02:53 PM Re: TV Stands [Re: michael_d]
duckman Offline
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Posts: 312
Loc: kansas
Something to keep in mind with media storage, unless you mostly rent you will exceed your storage capacity sooner than you think. You will then have an equipment cab compromised for media storage as well as needing additional media storage.I do the tv/dvd thing and it's just obsene how fast storage space gets eaten up.
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#143474 - 07/30/06 03:51 PM Re: TV Stands [Re: michael_d]
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Registered: 05/24/04
Posts: 1201
Loc: Fresno, CA
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I saw some pictures of work that a guy does and his work is nothing short of spectacular. I don't know much he charges, but maybe someone else here does. He does a lot of work for folks on the AV 123 board and goes by something like "Brucer" if I recall. Anyone know who I'm talking about?? I tried to log onto the AV web sight and it appears to be having troubles.





You are correct, Mike. He goes by the name of Brucer on the av123 website. I've never ordered anything from him, so I wouldn't know what he charges. But I think it's on a case to case basis.

The pictures I've seen from his finished work is remarkable. He can build you anything you want. But some of the wait times are pretty long. Don't expect something done in a couple of weeks.

Here is a link to his spot at av123.
Brucer's Corner
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#143475 - 07/30/06 10:07 PM Re: TV Stands [Re: richeydog]
Zarak Offline
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Registered: 03/09/03
Posts: 1849
Loc: PA
Thanks, I sent Brucer and email to get his thoughts. I think it is either a custom stand at this point or back to this one: TV Stand

My wife doesn't like any of the three I found too much, so might as well get the cheapest if it isn't going to be custom since she'll want to replace it if we find something she likes that works down the road.

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#143476 - 07/31/06 03:54 PM Re: TV Stands [Re: Zarak]
mrnomas Offline
old hand

Registered: 02/16/05
Posts: 86
Loc: Florida
If you are going to make it yourself, be sure you think about 2 things - ventilation and wire management. You need a lot of both. I'd personally skip any thoughts of media storage as even the most modest of DVD collections will quickly fill up what could be space for components. Just plan on buying/building separate storage for CDs/DVDs. In the long run, you'll have to do that anyways. Plus, all those empty shelves just beg to have something put on them.

If you are looking for something cheaper than the Diamond Case, you might look at Studio Tech . There stuff is nice and much more affordable.
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#143477 - 08/01/06 06:45 PM Re: TV Stands [Re: mrnomas]
Zarak Offline
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Registered: 03/09/03
Posts: 1849
Loc: PA
Thanks for the continuing ideas. My biggest issue seems to be finding something with a shelf that fits the VP150. According to Sony, the TV needs 4" on either side and the back, as well as 12" above of open space for proper ventilation. That makes an enclosure for the TV difficult, so I am looking for something 18"-24" high (the lower the better) that will fit the center on a shelf along with everything else. The studio techs don't look like they have a spot for the center, otherwise they might work (if they'd pass WAF, of course). As far as custom goes, ventilation was mentioned. I'll be covered on the TV, since it will just be sitting on top of the unit, but what about the other components. How much do I really need for the receiver, DVD, etc. Space is going to be a bit tight, so I don't have a lot of extra built in for that on the shelving with what I am thinking so far. I'm only looking at an inch or so above and on the sides of each device, is this not enough?

Wire management will likely be through holes in the back of the wood in the stand, so that all of the cables can hide behind the stand.

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#143478 - 08/01/06 08:14 PM Re: TV Stands [Re: Zarak]
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Registered: 01/09/03
Posts: 312
Loc: kansas
For ventilation, I would suggest this-http://www.performanceaudio.com/cgi/pages.cgi?buildPage=item&ProductID=006741 and this/these-http://www.performanceaudio.com/cgi/pages.cgi?buildPage=item&ProductID=002304
Dennis has this setup in his enclosed cabinet, theres pictures in a giant thread from last feb or so.There's even an led temp readout with probe if you wanna look cool. I am utterly amazed at the amount of heat my processor generates without amplification.
The diamond case features a removable back for ease of wiring- something to consider.
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#143479 - 08/09/06 10:11 PM Re: TV Stands [Re: duckman]
Zarak Offline
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Registered: 03/09/03
Posts: 1849
Loc: PA
The search is over!! Don't know if anyone cares at this point, but we've found the stand we are going to get. I'm not sure if this is the site we are getting it from, but here's a link Stand

BTW...I love how much easier it is to put in links since the boards were upgraded.

Anyway, we looked at bigger units, but decided in the end that we didn't want to switch what wall everything was on. The furniture would not fit in the room as well and we'd only be about 8 feet from the TV, which might be ok for some, but when you factor in that we are about 12 feet now and the TV will be much bigger, we decided against that.

A new stand might still be in our future when we move someday and have a different room to play with, but this is it for now. The stand will hold the 50" TV no problem. I'm not sure about the 55". Depth on the 55" is 18.9, the stand is 18.25. I would assume the base of the TV is not actually 18.9, so it might work. I'm pretty sure the 60" won't work, and don't think I want to go quite that big anyway.

Thanks for everyone's help throughout the process.

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#143480 - 08/09/06 10:48 PM Re: TV Stands [Re: Zarak]
shaned Offline
veteran

Registered: 05/12/05
Posts: 124
Loc: Halifax, Nova Scotia
Nice stand and a GREAT price. The stand looks smaller in the picture than 58"?
I bookmarked that site.

Shane D

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