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#162504 - 04/03/07 07:53 PM
Re: Emotiva MPS-1 shutting down? Amp gurus help
[Re: PorterPlex]
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connoisseur
Registered: 04/06/05
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Loc: Madisonville, KY
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How large are the toroids in the Outlaws spread across 5 or 7 channels? I know each amp on the mps-1 has its own 350VA Toroid or 2.45KVA total for 7 amps.
I'll have to find the size (I bet Gonk knows), but the 7500 and 7700 have the same 2 toroids. Must be big for the 7500 to weigh 80 lbs.
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#162506 - 04/03/07 08:00 PM
Re: Emotiva MPS-1 shutting down? Amp gurus help
[Re: PorterPlex]
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connoisseur
Registered: 01/21/07
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I know each amp on the mps-1 has its own 350VA Toroid or 2.45KVA total for 7 amps.
Are you sure it's only 350VA? It looks a lot bigger than that. If so, how is it that they are doing 780W RMS? The toroid would burn like my quiche in grade 7 cooking class.
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#162507 - 04/03/07 08:40 PM
Re: Emotiva MPS-1 shutting down? Amp gurus help
[Re: Mojo]
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connoisseur
Registered: 04/06/05
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350VA is correct for the MPS.
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#162508 - 04/03/07 10:18 PM
Re: Emotiva MPS-1 shutting down? Amp gurus help
[Re: PorterPlex]
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axiomite
Registered: 05/11/02
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Randy, one of your questions involved possibly disabling the anti-clipping limiter circuit, but as Mojo also pointed out this circuit doesn't cause the amp to shut down, it just lowers the gain. The result is that at extreme levels a lower, more rounded wave top results instead of a clipped flat top. So, that circuit isn't guilty with respect to the shutting down.
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#162509 - 04/03/07 10:39 PM
Re: Emotiva MPS-1 shutting down? Amp gurus help
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shareholder in the making
Registered: 01/29/04
Posts: 13147
Loc: Iowa
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Ok, John, Mojo, and whoever wants to provide input, here goes.
I dug out my old digital multimeter. About 15 years ago I took an electronics class through the NRI schools. About all I can remember is watts = volts x amps, if I recall correctly.
So, how about I hook up the multimeter between the speaker terminals on the amp, and the 12AWG wire going to my m80's. Then watch the current (amp) readings as I slowly turn up the volume while listening to music. If I make note of the reading at the time the amps shut down, could I not figure out the watts, and see if I truely am even close to 300 watts?
I just want to be in the ballpark, so when I call Emotiva I've got a little evidence, other than the Radio Shack SPL readings.
Thanks, Randy
Edited by sirquack (04/03/07 10:46 PM)
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#162510 - 04/03/07 11:04 PM
Re: Emotiva MPS-1 shutting down? Amp gurus help
[Re: PorterPlex]
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axiomite
Registered: 05/11/02
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Yes, do it, but you'll be reading voltage(which is the boss), not current. Then the form of Ohm's Law which is applicable would be P=Vsquared/R.
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#162511 - 04/03/07 11:08 PM
Re: Emotiva MPS-1 shutting down? Amp gurus help
[Re: JohnK]
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shareholder in the making
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Ok, I'm confused, isn't it current that would be traveling through the speaker wires? And, voltage is what would be in the AC line? Easy on me John. 
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#162512 - 04/03/07 11:15 PM
Re: Emotiva MPS-1 shutting down? Amp gurus help
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axiomite
Registered: 05/11/02
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Randy, the actual power is being carried by way of an electromagnetic wave traveling along the outside(not inside)of the speaker wire. Don't worry about current at this point; the standard way of measuring what you want to learn is by way of taking the voltage across the output terminals at varying levels.
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#162513 - 04/03/07 11:17 PM
Re: Emotiva MPS-1 shutting down? Amp gurus help
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shareholder in the making
Registered: 01/29/04
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ok, I'm going to run down and give it a quick try...thanks a bunch
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